Talk:Dreamgirls

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wow! beyonce as effie?
 * Apparently, she is now to play Deena, which is maybe just a little bit TOO ironic. --FuriousFreddy 00:52, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

Happy Ending?
Perhaps the plot summary was taken from the broadway booklet, or some other official form, but I think it is really too simplistic to claim that "the story ends with a happy ending for all." I think it's fairly obvious that there is a bitter-sweet ending, in truth, probably leaning much more towards the 'bitter' end of the spectrum. 65.92.63.76 03:25, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Contains error: Second sentence, reference to the Shirelles: This was not a Motown group. It was from the Philadelphia area and recorded on an independewnt label based in Philadelphia that was -- in a rarity for the time -- headed by a woman. The Shirelles started scoring hit records around 1959 or so -- ahead of the rise of Motown and its female singing groups. None of this is to say that the Shirelles were or were not part of the inspiration for "Dreamgirls." It was a three-member group of African-American women. Rogerbryant 02:28, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

S. Epatha Merkerson
S. Epatha Merkerson of TVs "Law and Order" said she participated in a workshop of Dreamgirls when it was still referred to as Project #9 on an episode of The View. She went into greater detail about the character she helped develope and the changes that were eventually made to the show. (Her character was dropped.) I tried to find more information about this online, because I don't remember all the details. Once more complete info is found, I think this bit of trivia is worth including under the History section.

The famous Amateur Night talent competition at the Apollo Theatre in Chicago?
Shouldn't the section in ACT I read "the famous Amateur Night talent competition at the Apollo Theatre in Harlem NY"? The Apollo Theater in Harlem NY is the home of the world famous Amateur Night for over the past 80 some-odd years.
 * Will fix. --FuriousFreddy 01:21, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: No consensus to move – This is not a vote guys; most of you haven't given any reasons and/or evidence why the move should be carried out. There's no way to determine consensus here. The only reason given is not really valid I'm afraid, since "first to be produced" doesn't necessarily mean it's the primary topic. If there is evidence that there is a primary topic, you can make a new move request. ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 10:13, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Dreamgirls (musical) → Dreamgirls — The article was controversially moved to the current location recently without discussion or consensus. The musical is the primary topic and a dab page for two articles is not necessary. Aspects (talk) 21:37, 28 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Agreed. Mark E (talk) 22:31, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Agreed. -- Ssilvers (talk) 23:16, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Agreed. The musical was the first to be produced, and should be considered primary.JeanColumbia (talk) 11:49, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose unless primary topic status can be established. Original vs. derivative and/or original title do not suffice.  —   AjaxSmack   21:52, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
 * oppose--Levineps (talk) 05:39, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Discussion
Still no arguments for a move. Highly popular multiple award-winning musical vs. highly popular multiple award-winning movie = no primary topic. The original title dates from before the movie's release so precedent arguments are weak. Derivative arguments also do not, by themselves, establish primacy. Please comment if I'm missing something. —  AjaxSmack   19:57, 6 March 2010 (UTC)


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Interesting casting choices
The last column of the 'Casts of notable productions' section (titled '2017 UK tour') is nonsense. None of those actors have ever been in any production of Dreamgirls.

82.28.236.173 (talk) 20:20, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
 * It has been removed. Thanks! BOVINEBOY 2008 16:59, 27 November 2020 (UTC)