Talk:Drew Brees

Place of Birth
So you seriously won't change incorrect information because another site (nfl.com) has that incorrect information, too? Really? Way to lead from behind! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.9.7.206 (talk) 01:13, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Drew Brees was quoted, again, in the Dallas Morning News on Dec 20, 2012 stating that he was born in Dallas and moved to Austin on 1986. Furthermore, Highland Park (Dallas) Child Dev. Center (daycare/school) has records of Drew Brees being enrolled there for several years. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DFWJC2012 (talk • contribs)

Give me a legitimate source that is not a BROKEN link to prove his birth in Dallas, Texas @User:
 * Give me a source. NFL.com says Austin.  Zappa  O  Mati   00:52, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
 * The poster may be talking about the following in the 12/20/12 Dallas Morning News: "Former Cowboys fan Drew Brees has 'extra motivation' this week", which begins, "New Orleans Saints quarterback Drew Brees was born and raised in Dallas, he won a high school state championship at Texas Stadium in 1986 and was once a Cowboys fan." This has been a subject of contention and confusion for a long time.  The majority of sources say Austin, and Brees' official website calls him "A native of Austin, TX", but sources for Dallas as his birthplace do exist. I agree that for the moment we should stick with Austin, being careful to identify the sources, unless there is something much less ambiguous from Brees than what we seem to have.--Arxiloxos (talk) 01:31, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Adding to the above, and making our situation more confusing: here's another article from the same Dallas Morning News, actually quoting Brees as saying "I was born in Dallas and moved to Austin in 1986."   Should we edit the article to indicate the conflict between sources?--Arxiloxos (talk) 02:40, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
 * And at the beginning of today's Saints—Cowboys game on Fox, announcer Kenny Albert repeated the same information: "He was born in Dallas, moved to Austin as a youngster." At this point, given all these reports plus the various printed sources that say Dallas, while the Saints and NFL websites both still say Austin, I am inclined to think that we should at least tag this to indicate the apparent conflict of sources (using the  tag, unless someone has a better suggestion). --Arxiloxos (talk) 22:16, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

Yet again, on the NFL Network, Brees said he was born in Dallas. See the video within the first few seconds. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyCr3fiSUUw

Also, JockBio website says the Brees was born in Dallas. http://www.jockbio.com/Bios/Brees/Brees_bio.html

Also, and this is where I started trying to fix this, my son's daycare (at SMU in Dallas) has several older people there that knew Drew Brees and his family when he was a baby.

I am just trying to help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DFWJC2012 (talk • contribs) 23:30, 2 April 2013 (UTC)


 * I understand your point, and I agree that in the NFL Films video about Troy Aikman that is linked at the Youtube URL above, Brees does say that he was born in Dallas and moved to Austin at age 7. The problem is that we customarily use the official NFL.com and team bios for information like this, and both of them still say that he was born in Austin. We've already added a "dubious" tag to the information in text, but maybe we should consider adding an explicit sentence noting that many sources say Dallas rather than Austin. --Arxiloxos (talk) 00:12, 3 April 2013 (UTC)


 * I've posted a note about this discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject National Football League. --Arxiloxos (talk) 00:38, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Texas does allow you to obtain verification of birth, or if you trust that ancestry.com has correctly parsed the data, you could use . Frietjes (talk) 17:05, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Place of birth, redux
In light of a recent attempted, and then reverted, change of Brees' birthplace from Austin to Dallas, it's appropriate to point out again that Brees himself stated in December 2012: "I was born in Dallas, moved to Austin in ’86 and loved the Cowboys." This was reported on the Saints official website ), and was quoted in newspapers as noted above. (And, for whatever it's worth, Ancestry.com's "Texas Birth Index" search also says Dallas.) On the other hand, his NFL.com page and his Saints official bio page still say Austin.

The article used to carry a "dubious" tag pointing to this talk page discussion ; this tag was apparently removed at some point, but in light of the continuing source conflict I'm restoring it. This question was also raised at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject National Football League/Archive 10, where it seemed that there was some support for using Dallas, given Brees' own statement on the matter.

So, in light of the considerable supporting evidence including his own statement, should we change his birthplace to Dallas? Alternatively, should we add something in the article text and/or footnotes to note the discrepancy?--Arxiloxos (talk) 23:06, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

factual innacuracy
"Drew's career with the Chargers was briefly put in jeopardy after San Diego drafted N.C. State's Philip Rivers with the fourth pick in the first round of the 2004 NFL draft."
 * I'm pretty sure I've heard that that's wrong. Didn't they select Eli and then New York selected Rivers and they traded?-Bio2590 06:43, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
 * You are correct. See articles on Eli Manning and also the 2004 NFL Draft The Incredible Moo 10:34, 25 September 2006 (UTC)


 * On the right side of Brees profile, it says that he was drafted in the 2nd Round Pick 32. This is incorrect. In 2001, when Brees was drafted, there were only 31 teams (Texans didn't exist). Brees was picked by San Diego Round 2, Pick 1. 32nd Pick overall. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jmc101293 (talk • contribs) 14:54, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

"Brees was born in Dallas, Texas, the son of Mina (née Akins), an attorney, and Eugene Wilson Brees II, a medical malpractice attorney.[4]"
 * Brees was born in Austin, Texas. http://www.nfl.com/player/drewbrees/2504775/profile — Preceding unsigned comment added by JaredWT (talk • contribs) 18:18, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Brees also has won the 2011 Offensive Player of the Year award as well. Needs an update — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chazeys (talk • contribs) 22:17, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

The article about his third son was published in 2012, not 2002. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.44.88.179 (talk) 00:07, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Please, this thread is from 3 years and half ago. In fact it should even be archived. Don't go bump threads like that, please. --TL22 (talk) 01:37, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

Flag?
Why Exactly is there a neutrality flag on this article? Pinewood74 23:12, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Is
anyone prepared to write a Mina Brees article?

Thank You.

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Not MVP
brees was not the 5A mvp in texas in 1996 it was dominic rhodes of the Indy Colts.
 * according to the official reference listed on this article, he was. The source stated that Rhodes was the runner up, Brees' team beat Rhoades' team in the 96 state championship. - - [ The Spooky One ] | [ t c r ] 03:39, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Another innacuracy
With a convincing 42-17 win in Dallas in their 14th game of the season, the Saints clinched the second seed in the NFC and a first-round bye.

This line is incorrect, the Saints did not clinch the second seed and first round bye until after the 16th week of the Season with their win at the NY Giants and a Dallas loss against the Philadelphia Eagles

Clean up objectives

 * Add References in proper format (See WP:Verify)
 * Clean up, format, and divide the walls of text
 * Use better sub headers to organize article.
 * Better lead paragraph
 * Format and organize "Achievements" section
 * Find a Fair Use Image on Flickr or US Armed Forces Site.

Ugh
Someone please fix the draft section. Preferably someone who knows the NFL. Brees wasn't a "free agent." Rookies drafted at the top of the second round are not, and never were, free agents. Also, why is the stuff about the competition with Flutie in the draft section? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.183.177.184 (talk) 11:48, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Game-by-Game log
I really do not see the need for a game-by-game log for the 2009 season yet. Unless Brees goes on to have an extremely notable and historical season, there is nothing that really merits the inclusion of weekly statistics outside of the 2009 New Orleans Saints season article. --  StarScream1007  ►Talk  07:12, 27 September 2009 (UTC)


 * I strongly agree with this. Even if he does have an incredible record breaking season I don't feel that it's encyclopedic to list his doings on a week by week basis. Scleaston (talk) 05:57, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Problem with vandalism
It looks like we are having somewhat of a problem with vandalism here. superflush (talk) 04:19, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Other Super Bowl record: consecutive completions
In addition to the record-tying 32 completions, Brees also shattered the previous record of 13 straight completions (held by Montana) by completing 15 straight over the 2nd and 3rd quarters. (He also completed either 10 or 11 to close out the game, which would have been good for 2nd place on the record list as well.) I think this should be noted in the part about his Super Bowl performance, but edits are locked right now, so I'm posting it here for later. To confirm, you can use ESPN's play-by-play tracker here (http://espn.go.com/nfl/playbyplay?gameId=300207011&period=3) and the NFL's Super Bowl records here (http://www.nfl.com/superbowl/records/superbowls/player/passing). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.231.38.50 (talk) 04:23, 8 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Never mind. I didn't see that he spiked the ball once at the end of the second quarter in the middle of the 15 completions.  The 11 at the end of the game was still good for second place though, but probably not worth a mention here. 99.231.38.50 (talk) 05:33, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

birthmark/scar
The article currently mentions that he had a noticeable and widely noted birthmark on his face (the cited article notes that fans at Purdue would mark their own faces for games in solidarity), but it doesn't take it to the next logical step where we should note that it was removed and that's why he has the large scar on his cheek in the exact same spot. Someone please remedy this. --174.20.146.232 (talk) 17:58, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

2010
Some events that occurred in 2010 (i.e. Superbowl XLIV) are listed under the subheading 2009. There currently isn't a subheading for 2010. Carenab (talk) 22:00, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
 * NFL seasons aren't like other sports that are called "2009-10 season". It's all "2009". --Smk42 (talk) 05:25, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification. --Carenab (talk) 22:56, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Madden NFL 11 cover
He will be on the cover of Madden NFL 11 when it is released. I'm not sure if it is pertinent or not for his article though. You can use the following cite for a ref if someone wants.

--Rockfang (talk) 14:55, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Images
The Marine Corps has posted a number of images from Drew's recent USO tour: here. Having been taken by US government employees, they are all public domain, and are fairly high quality. This is my favorite.  bahamut0013  words deeds 13:40, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Alternative Introduction
Drew Christopher Brees (/ˈbriːs/;[1] born January 15, 1979) is an American football quarterback for the New Orleans Saints of the National Football League (NFL). He played college football for Purdue University, and was chosen by the San Diego Chargers with the first pick in the second round of the 2001 NFL Draft. He left college as one of the most-decorated players in Purdue and Big Ten history, establishing 2 NCAA records, 13 Big Ten Conference records and 19 Purdue University records.[3]

Brees started his career with the San Diego Chargers, earning the starting job in 2002 and making the Pro Bowl in 2004. After injuring his shoulder at the end of the 2005 season, Brees signed with the New Orleans Saints, where he met almost immediate success, making the Pro Bowl every year in his career there except for 2007. In 2009, Brees led the Saints to the franchise's first Super Bowl title, completing a record 32 passes and being named the MVP of Super Bowl XLIV. Brees has also been named the AP Offensive Player of the year twice, in 2008 and 2011, and made the AP All-Pro team four times. Sports Illustrated named Brees as its 2010 Sportsman of the Year.[6]

As quarterback, Brees has set numerous NFL records for yardage, touchdown passes and accuracy. In the 2011 season, Brees broke four NFL records: most passing yards in a season, with 5,476 yards, breaking Dan Marino's mark of 5,084 yards set 27 years earlier, highest completion percentage in a season (71.2%), most 300+ yard passing games in a season (13), and most completions in a season (468). Brees has the highest career post-season completion percentage in NFL history, at 66.8%. In addition, Brees holds the record for most consecutive games with at least 1 touchdown pass (54), surpassing Johnny Unitas's record of 47 straight games with a touchdown pass, a record which stood for 52 years.[7] Brees is a prolific passer, being the only player in NFL history with more than one 5,000 yard passing season, having made the mark four times. Brees is the fastest player in NFL history to reach 50,000 yards passing.[8] Brees is the Saints all-time leader in career wins, pass attempts, pass completions, passing yards, and passing touchdowns. Brees is currently the owner of the 3rd best career accuracy (pass completion) rate in NFL history.[11]

Brees is also known for his work off the field, having been heavily involved with recovery efforts after Hurricane Katrina. In addition, he is co-chair of the President's Council on Fitness, Sports and Nutrition. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.3.20.221 (talk) 01:04, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

NFC Awards -- Relevant?
I removed the NFC awards he won, since they're hardly considered major NFL awards, especially for a quarterback of his caliber. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.3.20.221 (talk) 04:09, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

NPOV Dispute - College career
The last sentence of this section reads:


 * To continue his education and improve his ability to pursue reasoned business ventures and opportunities, Brees also attended the Stanford Graduate School of Business for NFL Business Management and Entrepreneurship in 2008.

It sounds like it was written by someone from Stanford. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.105.63.225 (talk) 03:27, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

I just deleted the entire part. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.3.20.221 (talk) 03:59, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Place of Birth and Name
On the Jay Mohr radio show on 12/2/2014, Drew Brees states during an interview that he was born in Dallas, Texas and that Drew is actually not short for Andrew.

http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2014/12/drew_brees_tells_show_reports.html#incart_m-rpt-2 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.11.31.239 (talk) 11:40, 2 December 2014 (UTC)


 * I've listened to this and will verify that this is right. In the interview, Brees states that he was born in Dallas and lived there until he was 7, and (at about 00:47 on the recording at the nola.com page cited above) he specifically notes that his Wikipedia page was wrong to state that his name was Andrew--"it's just Drew". In the same interview he also rebuts the reports that he was named for Drew Pearson: "that's just legend . . . somehow that came out in an article and people just ran with it". --Arxiloxos (talk) 03:42, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

1[5|6] 400-yard games
I see that you undid this edit that I had accepted, changing the 16 400-yard games stat to 15. I was in the process of adding a reference from Sunday that confirms it's 15 games, not 16; we edit-conflicted and I overwrote you. Is my source wrong? Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 17:28, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I see now that it's 15. The source I found that I added to 2016 NFL season was ABC News. I didn't expect they'd be wrong so I didn't double check with other sources. Lizard  (talk) 18:26, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Oh I hate when sources are wrong. Just to be sure I checked just now with nfl.com and they have 15 as well. Just making sure we get it right! Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 18:47, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 January 2018
Drew Brees was not the passer rating leader in 2017. Alex Smith was the passer rating leader. Misleading information. Woogykang (talk) 20:54, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done  JTP (talk • contribs) 22:53, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

Innacuracy
Walk-On's did not originate in New Orleans, it originated in Baton Rouge. Baconbit86 (talk) 00:05, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

Broke completions record.
Brees just broke Brett Favre’s all-time pass completion record, throwing for 39-of-49 in a win over the Falcons. Stats need to be updated. QueenieGray (talk) 23:02, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Please provide a link to a published, reliable source for this information that can be cited in the article. Please note that Wikipedia is not a real-time source for sporting news and statistics; we include information in articles here only after other, citable sources report it.  General Ization  Talk  23:10, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Source  Kees08  (Talk)   23:31, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

Here’s an article from Mike Triplett at ESPN: http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/24771889/drew-brees-passes-brett-favre-most-career-completions And one more from Herbie Teope of NFL.com: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000965188/article/drew-brees-breaks-record-accounts-for-5-tds-in-win

QueenieGray (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 13:22, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

He has more accomplishments than this
Drew Brees is a 7 x passing leader and 3 x passing tds lead XavierWoodman (talk) 21:26, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

Not the All-Time TDs leader
The article currently claims in the third paragraph that he's the career touchdown passes leader. He's not, still 19 behind Peyton Manning. While probably an inevitability that he passes Peyton, it should not be on his page until he does so. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.95.49.168 (talk) 20:13, 4 September 2019 (UTC)

Drew Brees page
Please change this page and take away the white supremacist remark. This man is not a racist or a supremacist — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:100F:B12F:90FF:3D39:B87:7E41:2409 (talk) 03:49, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done Removed from the lead but no need to bomb the talk page with requests. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 03:51, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

Drew Brees is not being racist, but he did make some shitty comments — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheJackBasket777 (talk • contribs) 10:01, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

Error on when Saints’ Week 9 game occurred
Note: The page says that the Saints’ Week 9 game against Tampa Bay was on ESPN’s Monday Night Football. The game actually occurred one night earlier, on NBC’s Sunday Night Football. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:A000:1306:C3F9:B15E:43E9:C3D6:A5E9 (talk) 05:28, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ Zappa</b><b style="color: #FFD700;">⚡</b><b style="color: red;">Matic</b> 04:15, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:A000:1306:C3F9:E821:659:4A33:FDD9 (talk) 05:13, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

Drew Brees legal name?
Is Drew Brees' legal name "Andrew Christopher Brees" (as given in the current article lead) or "Drew Christopher Brees"? I thought it was "Drew Christopher Brees", and the article appears to have used that name essentially without interruption from 2013 (for example, see this version) until September of this year (see ). The edit that made the change in September appeared to be a removal of vandalism, rather than an intentional change to a different name based on newly found information.

Oddly, I could not find a source in the article for either Andrew or Drew. However, the beginning of "Early life and high school" states that "Drew Christopher Brees was born ...", lending further evidence to Drew being his legal first name.

The name was discussed briefly on the talk page here, but I could not find any other sources in the article or any other discussion of the matter on the talk page.

In the spirit of WP:BOLD, I decided that I'll change the name back to Drew, as it had been for the last 7 years, but feel free to discuss it further here. Thanks for your help with this! <b style="color:#800000">palindrome</b>§<b style="color:#017745">ǝɯoɹpuᴉןɐd</b> 06:48, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 February 2021
Andrew Brees' legal name is Andrew. This should be mentioned or Drews everywhere will be offended. 2600:1017:B1D6:1983:6E55:7A73:B4A7:856 (talk) 18:37, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. J850NK (talk) 18:43, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

HOF'er! Please add retirement quotes!
This man is a future Hall of Famer and one of the greatest QB's to ever grace the League (NFL). Please include some quotes from his retirement announcement! 2600:1004:B040:6F92:3BD4:50FE:184F:32DF (talk) 21:15, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

Intro wording
Although never receiving Most Valuable Player honors during the regular season, he was recognized as the MVP of Super Bowl XLIV. This wording implies that Brees was deserving but got robbed of the regular season NFL MVP, plus a lot of other NFL stars have not won this honor either, so it is better to say that he finished runner-up for this. It also suggests that the Super Bowl MVP was a consolation prize to the regular season MVP, so I moved the mention to the previous paragraph. FobTown (talk) 23:01, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I fail to see how "this wording implies that Brees was deserving but got robbed of the regular season NFL MVP". "A lot of other NFL stars" didn't hold major quarterback records when they retired. Brees is one of the most decorated in his position, but that one award eluded him. Does "although a title victory ultimately eluded him during his career" on Dan Marino's page imply he was "robbed" of a Super Bowl ring? No, it's directly stating the facts. It's not better to say "he finished runner-up" because that's not even mentioned in the "career highlights and awards" section of the infobox. If anything, that is the consolation prize, whereas the Super Bowl MVP was an actual award. At this point, I think it's better to simply remove this sentence altogether since neither of us support the wording we didn't write. Bluerules (talk) 15:56, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

Notes A is incorrect
It says it’s tied with Tom but Tom now has 5 TD titles breaking the tie now being the sole leader. 47.157.234.109 (talk) 18:36, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Removed. (CC) Tb hotch ™ 04:56, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 January 2022
Incorrect: "Brees is the NFL leader in career completion percentage"

Brees is ranked second in career completion percentage rather than being the leader

Sources: https://www.footballdb.com/leaders/career-passing-completionpct

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/who-has-the-highest-career-pass-completion-percentage

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_cmp_perc_career.htm Thenectarine (talk) 06:01, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅. Heartmusic678 (talk) 16:21, 28 January 2022 (UTC)