Talk:Dronamraju Krishna Rao

Request to remove this page by Dr. Dronamraju Krishna Rao
Dr. Dronamraju Krishna Rao requested that this page be removed from Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sunilreddym (talk • contribs) 16:58, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Hello. Wikipedia articles are not controlled by their subjects, generally, and it is unlikely that an article would be deleted only because the subject wishes it to be. If Dr Rao feels that there are issues with the article that need to be remedied, his best route forward is to follow the advice at this page. If you or he can explain what the problem is, either here on this talk page or in an email to, we would be better able to resolve whatever is going on. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 17:05, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Technically, someone can procedurally nominate the article for deletion. And by WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE, the page can be deleted if the community agrees that the subject is a relatively unknown, non-public figure, and if there is no rough consensus. Michaelzeng7 (talk) 19:06, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure a BLPREQUESTDELETE would be declined here, as the person seems to clearly meet WP:ACADEMIC as the expert on a particular relevant scientific topic; the holder of a number of quality, though not particularly outstanding, academic appointments; and the author of a large number of books, at least some of which appear to be important. Basically, this article is just like a chapter in a book, or a newspaper report, or whatever--a living person can't demand that someone not write a book about them, or that a newspaper not write an article about them. Qwyrxian (talk) 22:20, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
 * True. Michaelzeng7 (talk) 02:38, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
 * After reverting another removal attempt by an account claiming to be the subject, I've left a message on his talk page trying to explain further. Qwyrxian (talk) 11:37, 23 July 2013 (UTC)+

First name vs. last name
Numerous sources refer to the subject as if Dronamraju is his family name. I did notice that the account claiming to be the subject was User:DKRAO55, which suggests the reverse to me. I would like to make sure the names are listed in the appropriate order, but I don't want to move anything without consensus. Any thoughts? EricEnfermero HOWDY! 03:24, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Personal
This section qualifies to be removed or modified as it mentions reference only from one article and is not a proven fact. Please add your inputs and do some search. Dr. Angel DeCegama (talk) 01:55, 27 December 2013 (UTC) Dr. Angel DeCegama
 * Dr. DeCegama - Are you contending that the Houston Press source was in error regarding the guilty plea to the criminal charges? If so, was there a retraction printed by the paper? Right now, I think that the Wikipedia entry is fairly restrained, especially compared to the description in the Houston Press. The allegations of the objectionable behavior were described in a bit more detail in the original source. Doing a search, as you suggest, does not turn up anything that would cast doubt on the cited source. EricEnfermero  HOWDY! 02:45, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Personally, I cannot find any other WP:RS that mentioned it. The Houston Press mentions the Houston Chronicle as it's source for the assault charges, but I see nothing on the Chronicle's website relating to it.  The name Dronamraju does pop up on sex offender registry for Houston, but beyond that I don't see anything.  Can we remove the Houston Press stuff as unverifiable but leave the change if we can find a court document? EvergreenFir (talk) 04:10, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
 * PS - Houston Press appears to be a middle-market newspaper according to its own about page. EvergreenFir (talk) 04:14, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
 * At one point, I think there was some sort of primary source (either the Texas DPS website or a court document) and it seemed like it was removed as a violation of WP:BLPPRIMARY. EricEnfermero  HOWDY! 04:54, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I agree with EvergreenFir. I think it should be removed for now, but if a court document is found, it should be back on display. EricEnfermero - is there a way to search for the primary source though deleted under WP:BLPPRIMARY? If so, deletion should be put on hold for now. Dr. Angel DeCegama (talk) 02:19, 28 December 2013 (UTC)Angel — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dr. Angel DeCegama (talk • contribs) 02:17, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

I'm very, very leery of using a court document for contentious information in a BLP. The issue isn't that the primary source has been deleted. The problem is that it seems to be forbidden by WP guidelines. I considered The Houston Press to be a reliable source and felt like that was the consensus from previous talk page discussions. However, I understand the rationale that it's a middle-market newspaper rather than a mainstream paper. To me, at this point we should leave out the assertions in question until we locate Houston Chronicle (or similar) coverage on the matter. EricEnfermero HOWDY! 19:47, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I completely agree. I was unable to verify it though so I've removed it for now. EvergreenFir (talk) 02:33, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I agree with EricEnfermero. Dr. Angel DeCegama (talk) 17:06, 29 December 2013 (UTC)Angel
 * No problem. What do you think about the order of his names in this entry? See the question I posed in the previous section of this page. Thanks! EricEnfermero  HOWDY! 17:17, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

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Name order
Long ago, questions were asked about the name order in this page title, and no-one appears to have responded.

This is confusing.

From dab page Krishna Rao which links here:

Krishna Rao or Krishnarao is an Indian full name based on the given name Krishna and the surname Rao.

But he's referred to extensively in the article by "Dronamraju" which would conventionally be his surname.

Moreover, on Goodreads, he's Krishna R. Dronamraju (and the same on every other source I quickly scanned).

I've learned a fair number of Hindi words for different legumes lately, but my Hindi is not up to figuring this out Indian name structure for myself in any definitive way. &mdash; MaxEnt 00:03, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

Personal (revisited)
The consensus from the 2013 discussion—as I distill it—was to remove this section, pending a second quality source.

Interestingly, there's already a link in the external links section which does just that:


 * Fame in the Abstract — 2016

But as the friendship deepened and became romantic, many of Hood's other friends found Dronamraju off-putting, and as he began to take control of her business affairs, the relationship raised eyebrows among them.

"She was definitely under his spell," one friend said. "He was a more domineering character than Velasco [Maidana]."

Hood stuck by Dronamraju and defended him, even after he pleaded no contest to attempted sexual assault, in 1997.

According to the police report, he undressed himself and groped an employee on her first day of work for him.

He was sentenced to seven years' probation. (Reached by phone, Dronamraju had no comment about the charges and said little about Hood. "I haven't thought about her" was all he would tell me. "She died long ago.")

Clearly, the publication was doing proper verification. And it's not an especially small publication, either:

Texas Monthly has a paid circulation of 300,000 and it has a monthly readership of 2.5 million people—one out of seven Texan adults.

On the other hand, I'm not personally keen on the one-strike eternal damnation policy of the present era.


 * Just Mercy — forthcoming 2019

In the 2014 book, Bryan Stevenson asks "Are we each the worst thing we've ever done?" Crickets, because nobody wants to be overheard whispering the secret contrition "good God, I sure hope not".

From my view, I consider the sourcing debate over. But maybe the pertinence debate should be reconsidered before rushing to repost this material. &mdash; MaxEnt 00:42, 25 July 2019 (UTC)


 * I don't feel as strongly about this as I once did. I can see both sides. In 2013-2014, I think my opinions were influenced by the annoying and fairly frequent appearances of registered accounts whose usernames suggested that they were editing on behalf of the subject or one of his colleagues. These accounts seemed to have only a few purposes: to hold the subject out as an expert, to remove mention of the charges, and to advertise a science startup catalyzer company. I understand what you're saying about the one-strike thing, and I don't want my annoyance at a few anonymous editors to unduly influence me -- especially now that the entry does not try to paint the subject as God's gift to science. Larry Hockett (Talk) 02:42, 6 August 2019 (UTC)