Talk:Drop D tuning/Archive 1

All That Remains
All That Remains is listed as using a drop tuning, however all of their music is in D standard, aside from some earlier tracks in B standard. Just thought I'd note that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.191.112.228 (talk) 22:47, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Drop Db
Doesn't "Drop Db" mean to drop only the 6th string down to a Db from standard tuning? Same for "Drop C", only to a C of course.
 * Drop Db would reffer to tuning the E string 3 half steps, and every other string down 1, although I'm not sure what you'd do with 7+ string guitars Jds10912 15:17, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

More examples needed
Kurt Cobain (Nirvana) did not use drop D in Heart-Shaped Box, he used the tuning Db Ab Db Gb Bb Eb so I think this song should be removed. But in the song all apologies he used Drop D but did not tune it to the other strings which had been down a 1/2 step. He used drop D in the songs I Hate Myself and I Want To Die, On a Plain, and Been A Son. We could also include some other examples such as Black Hole Sun by Soundgarden. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by When The Levee Breaks (talk • contribs) 03:20, 29 January 2007 (UTC).


 * Some more examples for those who may want to add to the article. These are some that I know for sure as I can play them and have to retune for them (of course)....


 * Dream Theater - Home
 * Ratt - Lay It Down, You're In Love, 7th Avenue, Lack Of Communication, Enough Is Enough, etc...(Ratt uses Drop D rather prolifically)
 * TNT - Rock 'N Roll Away
 * Slaughter - Up All Night
 * Anthrax - Room For One More


 * Also, here are some examples of E Flat/Drop D Flat (tune to Drop D and then tune EVERYTHING down another half step)


 * Van Halen - Unchained
 * Bullet Boys - THC Groove, Hang On Saint Christopher
 * Winger - Hangin' On
 * Blue Murder - Jelly Roll
 * Ozzy Osbourne - Ultimate Sin, No More Tears


 * Celtic Katie 71.114.85.145 21:03, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Kashmir Reference
Why does the refernce for Kashmir in using Drop D tuning turn into a description of the song itself, including time signatures and such? This is TOTALLY irrelevant to the tuning of a guitar. Relevant to an article on Kashmir, but not here....And not only that, Kashmir is not even in Drop-D...it is in D Modal. I would edit it myself IF I created an account and learn how to edit articles....I just thought I would bring it up for those who are active in creating/editing the articles. Celtic Katie 164.214.1.54 14:01, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Merge
I'm not sure who proposed this article be merged with DADGAD, but I think the articles should remain separate. Drop D and DADGAD are very different tunings used in different contexts for different reasons. If anything, this article should be merged with Drop C tuning instead. Strobilus 03:26, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

I am also against the merge. Since there are two of us against it so far and no reason given for a merge, I'll remove the merge tag --Meanmeancoffeebean 07:06, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Ty Tabor
The guy pretty much invented Drop D Tuning (hyperbole, don't get upset). He's been playing in Drop D since 1983 (with King's X if you don't know who he is) and hasn't turned back since. I think he's a good example for the article because he has been using Drop D Tuning for so long and because he doesn't just use it to chug out D5 chords like a lot of nu-metal bands. BrainRotMenacer 05:30, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

List Of Bands
Seems kinda futile to me. There are probably millions of bands in the whole who play in Drop D, and listing just a few is pointless, especially as the bands listed don't use Drop D exclusively. I'm going to take it out. CDowns 13:57, 28 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I agree with this. Everyone probably uses it at one time or another and the list doesn't really add value to the article. Craig Montgomery (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 15:06, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Backlash?
If I was able to scrape up some references, would anyone be averse to a small section on the current perception of this tuning amongst modern guitarists? From what I've picked up based on conversations with a variety of [notoriously elitist] guitarists, I've heard nothing but scorn and negativity towards this tuning since 1995 or so. I'd imagine this would be largely attributed to the D5's massive popularity amongst "low talent" garage punk bands (some of which become rich and famous) coupled with the "one finger" simplicity. Plus, there seems to be a major desire to assert one's self as an original "artist", which generally extends to displaying your artistic arrogance by saying things like "My indie/calypso fusion lap-steel guitar with Modal-C bazouki accompaniment may not get me a record deal, but at least I'm not as unoriginal and talentless as those power-chord nu-punk losers!". Bullzeye (Ring for Service) 08:23, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Taking out the Bands
Here is what was there:

Artists who have used drop D tuning

 * As I Lay Dying (on some songs from An Ocean Between Us)`
 * Avenged Sevenfold
 * Billy Talent
 * Black Tide
 * Dethklok
 * Disturbed
 * Elliott Smith
 * Every Time I Die
 * Foo Fighters (on the song Everlong from the album The Colour and the Shape)
 * Godsmack
 * Haste The Day (on the song "Stitches" from Pressure the Hinges)
 * Helmet
 * Keith Urban
 * King's X
 * KoЯn
 * Lamb of God
 * Linkin Park (on "Minutes to Midnight" album)
 * Marilyn Manson
 * Metallica
 * Nirvana
 * Opeth
 * Pantera
 * The Pillows
 * Pink Floyd
 * Radiohead (Bodysnatchers)
 * Rise Against
 * Slipknot
 * Soundgarden
 * System of a Down
 * Switchfoot
 * Tenacious D (on the song "The Metal" from The Pick of Destiny)
 * Three Days Grace
 * Tommy Emmanuel
 * Tool
 * Trivium
 * Underoath
 * The Showdown
 * Warren Zevon

The reason I took this out is because nearly every band, from Zep to TOOL, will use this at one time or another. This is sort of like have a section on bands which use Standard tuning - which would go on forever. I don't think the article is any better by isolating bands or songs that use D, which is nothing new.

Sorry to take it all out - you can put it back. It is just too common and will start a list that goes on forever. Craig Montgomery (talk) 06:42, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Please see WP:INDISCRIMINATE. Timothy Joseph Wood  16:23, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

520033
I'm trying out this tuning for the first time. Can anyone explain how the G chord can be fingered 520033? My fingers find this absolutely impossible even if I do permit the thumb to help. Is this one of the "theoretical" chords that just don't work in practice? Then we might write an alternative such as x20033.--Neitram (talk) 20:15, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Drop D Tuning in heavy metal/hard rock
I changed "While playing power chords (a chord that includes the prime, fifth and octave) in standard tuning requires a player to use two or three fingers" by adding the two fingers part since I know many people play a standard power chord with just two, one for the root and one barring the other two for the 5th and octave higher root. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.237.184.185 (talk) 01:53, 9 January 2015 (UTC)