Talk:Drumthwacket

Name
Most mortifying name for an Executive Masion ever. 68.39.174.238 14:37, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Origin/derivation of name would be welcome. User:HopsonRoad 22:41, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

Contradictory information
The article says is was built in both 1760 and 1835. Which is it? --JHP (talk) 03:29, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
 * According to the Drumthwacket Foundation it was 1835 and therefore I changed the date in the infobox. The infobox also claims its architects were "Gildersleeve,Raleigh C.; Langton,Donald W." but the above source indicates it was built "possibly using a design by architect Charles Steadman." Given that the original information is unsourced and contradictory, and the Foundation seems less than positive regarding its claim, I have removed the architect information for now. If a source is identified it can be restored. Accurizer (talk) 22:45, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

I find IT very obscene that this page says nothing about its first owner Robert Stockton and his wife Annis. This place was their Estate called Morven. They hosted George Washington during Revolution war. See Morven NJ entry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wechat2 (talk • contribs) 18:13, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Error in first sentence
Contradicts this other Wikipedia article, which I am pretty sure is correct: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio_Governor%27s_Mansion 216.82.251.228 (talk) 23:30, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Pronounciation
I assume that the stress is on the second syllable. I don't know how the syllables are divided: is the th in the first syllable, or the second?

In other words: is it drum-THWACK-et or drumth-WACK-et?

Thanks 140.180.189.23 (talk) 03:50, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

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Drumthwacket in Scotland: location and etymology
I've edited to say Drumthwacket probably comes from Walter Scott. More questions:

Dugald Dalgetty of Drumthwacket in A Legend of Montrose is a fictional character, but many of Scott's fictional people and places are modelled on historical ones.
 * Was "Drumthwacket" a real name and/or based on a real place of a different name?:
 * "Marischal's most Martial Alumnus" Aberdeen University Review vol. 3 p. 15 says "[Drumthwacket's] precise position has indeed been the subject of some learned antiquarian inquiry, which seemed likely at one time to lead to controversy; but a correct and intelligent reading of Scott's description of Dugald's bare acres settled the question, it would seem finally, almost as soon as it was raised. The estate of the Dalgettys was identified by the late Dr. Paul of Banchory-Devenick with the lands of Drumforskie which lay in his own parish. Sir Walter places Drumthwacket at a distance of five miles south of Aberdeen, and this led Mr. Sydney Couper, Craigiebuckler, to ask in "Scottish Notes and Queries" whether Dr. Paul could be correct, as he locates Drumforskie at two miles and a half from the Bridge of Dee. A later correspondent reconciled Sir Walter's and Dr. Paul's distances by the very simple expedient of showing that each authority was referring to a different end of the estate. Sir Walter took his five miles from the southernmost extremity of the lands of Drumforskie."
 * This only partially Google-previewable book calls "Drumth Whacket" [sic] a "former farm", and has cross-references to "Drumthwacket" from "Moor of Drumforskie" and "Banchoryhillock"
 * James Giles' 1848 painting "Aberdeen: distant view from Drumthwacket"
 * As regards linkable Wikipedia articles, unreliable webpages suggest Hare Moss covers part of the Moor of Drumforskie

jnestorius(talk) 22:25, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
 * What Gaelic words mean "wooded hill"?:
 * I have not found an earlier source than the cited 1982 article for the "wooded hill" derivation.
 * "Report on the System of Improvement Followed in the Muirs of Drumforskie and Drumquhyle" Transactions of the Highland and Agricultural Society of Scotland (1837) NS vol. 5 p. 98 discusses the neighboring moors ("muirs") of Drumforskie (see above) and Drumquhyle and derives their names from drum fuar skie "cold bleak ridge" and drum choille "woody ridge".
 * The Watson cite above gives derivations Drumforskie Druim Chroiscaigh "ridge of the crossing place" and Drumquhale Druim Choille "ridge of woods".
 * It would be wrong to use the etymology of Drumforskie as the etymology of Drumthwacket even if they are two names for the same place; but it is worse to use the etymology of Drumquhale as the etymology of Drumthwacket, because they are different places.
 * While Irish drom means "hill" and Scottish Gaelic druim means "ridge", I can't think of any Irish word meaning something like "wooded" which could be Anglicized anything like "thwacket". But my knowledge of Irish is patchy and of Scottish Gaelic nil.
 * The Watson cite above doesnt seem to offer an etymology for Drumthwacket
 * Possible alternative derivations of Drumthwacket might include druim fraoch "ridge of heather"; druim faiche "field ridge" or druim faichean "burrows ridge" (see faiche)
 * If the name Drumthwacket is fictional as opposed to obsolete, and was invented by Walter Scott, then he may not have had any particular derivation in mind.