Talk:Dual-sport motorcycle

2-strokes versus 4-strokes
Isn't there a difference in the motors of a Street bike and an off road bike?

Isn't one a 2-stoke and the other a 4-stroke?

Isn't that why dirt bikes sound like a chainsaw? --BillyTFried 22:40, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Generally speaking, dirtbikes are single cylinder 2-strokes (sounds like a chainsaw) or single cylinder 4-stroke (sounds like someone hammering or thumping on a board). The trend is toward 4-stroke for emissions reasons.

Since streetlegal bikes have to pass emissions standards (difficult with 2-strokes) almost all dualsports are single cylinder 4-strokes. These are called "thumpers" because of the distinctive sound.

Japanese dualsports, which dominate this tiny market segment, are broken into lightweight (200/250cc) and heavyweight (650cc). There is one real middleweight, the Suzuki 400 DRZ.

Fratermus 03:26, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

I'd consider something like the Yamaha XT 350 to be middleweight as well.

Merge
I am generally opposed to the merge. Enduros and dual sports are usually the same thing, license plates and headlights being the main difference, but their use is completely different. Just link the two pages. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rlboyce (talk • contribs) 14:56, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm opposed to the merge as well. However not only due the fact thease machines are used differenty, i actually think thier designs/tunning differ quite a lot. (An actual Enduro machine is more like modified/street-legal Motocross bike) Druiloor (talk) 17:54, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm opposed to the merge. It would be equal to merging Jazz with Rock & Roll. Dual Sport bikes evolved from Enduros but they're not the same thing. Requesting a merge suggests little or no experience with Dual Sport riding. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.181.33.235 (talk) 05:51, 1 December 2008

Coordination
I am new to Wiki and wish to expand the article based on my book "The Essential Giude to Dual Sport Motircycling". What should I do to coordinate with the current author? Cadams7649 (talk) 16:07, 9 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Welcome, Cadams. First off, you should know there is no one author for this article, it is already a collaborative edit.  Your incremental contributions will be welcomed if you keep in mind the policies and guidelines of the project.  You should be able to coordinate more broadly with the folks at WikiProject Motorcycling.
 * Specifically about your book and this article, please keep in mind that Wikipedia is not a manual, guidebook, or textbook. Also, be sure that in getting your book published, you maintained copyright.  If the copyright lies elsewhere, you cannot contribute portions of your book to this project without agreement of the copyright holder to use a suitable license.  Read more on this topic at Copyrights.
 * Again, welcome, and thanks for your interest and contributions! --ChrisRuvolo (t) 17:31, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Thank you, Chris Ruvolo, for your reply. I will become more familiar with the guide lines and get approval from my publisher before proceeding. Basically, I want to expand the definition, describe the evolution of dual sports and expand the discussion of types. Would you please answer a question relative to the spelling of dual-sport? The terms dual-sport, dual sport and DualSport (a trademark of Suzuki Motor Corporation)are all commonly used. However, only the spelling "dual-sport" leads to the article on Wikipedia. How can the other spellings be added so that they will also lead to the article. Cadams7649 (talk) 16:04, 10 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Happy to help. Your proposed topics are definitely within scope. Please keep in mind the verifiability, reliable sources, and neutral point-of-view policies and guidelines as you add material.  There's a lot of verbiage around these topics, but the basic rules are pretty simple.  We try to assume good faith, so don't worry if something isn't 100% right the first time.  Wikipedia encourages people to be bold with their contributions and iteratively edit to fix issues as they come up.
 * As for the topic spelling issue, that is handled by redirects. An example would be how motorbike is a redirect to motorcycle.  Notice the (Redirected from Motorbike) at the top of the page if you click the motorbike link.  You can view and edit the redirect itself by clicking that redirect message, which will bring you to a page like this.  So for the dual-sport specific topics, you can click on the following links (which should be red links at the time you are clicking on them, indicating that the topic doesn't have an article yet): dual sport, DualSport, Dual Sport.  That will bring you straight to an editing page where you can use the instructions at WP:REDIRECT to construct a redirect to the Dual-sport page.  Take a look at the code at the motorbike redirect for an example to follow.  I hope this is helpful.  Cheers. --ChrisRuvolo (t) 18:41, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

While editing the article, I lost the xr 600 picture. Can anyone restore it? Cadams7649 (talk) 14:45, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Please disregard my previous request. I found my error and the picture is restoredCadams7649 (talk) 14:54, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

All-road
Also Allround or Dual-purpose At least in Europe wat is ment by this is a street-legal Enduro, or similar (spoked 21" front, 19/18" rear) machine. With 'advanture', rather then 'knobby' tires fitted. Basically a dual-sport bike. Linked are overweight and/or underpowered IMHO, but you probably get my point.

Dual sport really more common?
I'd have thought 'dual purpose' was way more common.--Cancun771 (talk) 14:19, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Seven years later! Does anyone actually use the term "dual sport"? I've almost never heard it! In the category of dirt-capable bikes we have true dirt bikes (motocross, endure and trials) and on/off-road bikes, such as trail bikes and adventure bikes (which are basically big trailies). "Dual sport" suggests a bike that can be used for two sports; since that is not the case, "dual purpose" or "all-road' makes more sense.  But does anyone use those terms?  I reckon this page need a new title (as well as a proper sort-out). Arrivisto (talk) 16:17, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

A few comments, possible additions (not too familiar with wikipedia policies, sorry)
I'm not too familiar with wikipedia policy and guidelines, but I hope the information below might help the authors :

An interesting distinction between dual sports is the material used for fairing. Road-oriented bikes use painted, ABS-like plastics like on road bikes. Offroad oriented bikes use the softer polyethylene, which looks cheaper, is not suitable for painting (stickers are used), but is far more resistant to abuse. Experienced offroad riders immediately spot the difference, but there's no mention of this distinction on this page or the more general motorcycle pages. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.101.61.230 (talk) 18:37, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

Quick note to anyone editing this page, the link at the bottom to "Adventure Touring" just redirects to the same page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.169.144.149 (talk) 06:30, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

suzuki dual-sport with 2 cyl?
>The heaviest dual-sport offered by Suzuki Motor Corporation in 2008 weighs about 460 pounds (210 kg) and has a large two-cylinder engine with plenty of power for long freeway trips.

what bike would that be? v-strom is not dual-purpose, it's tourer. only yamaha (super tenere) and honda (africa twin and VFR1200X Crosstourer) are making heavy duals atm. (they call them "adventure tourers"89.17.13.164 (talk) 00:31, 16 August 2017 (UTC)


 * It's not 2008. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 01:28, 16 August 2017 (UTC)