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PANONIAN and I discussed this in a civil and fair manner. We went through all the options and decided on what should stay in the article and how the article name should be written as. There is no reason for once again causing disputes. We made it fair for all three ethnicities of BiH and followed BiH's government. Both are used. Vseferović 17:56, 13 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Seferoviću, I don't care what you agreed with someone else, what you consider to be "fair" and for whom. All I want is a factually accurate article. Why don't you write a short section explaining the name issue? For example:
 * "The official name is X, but it used to Y and was changed because of Z. Generally, Group A accept and use the newer official name, while Group B consider it illegitimate and reject it. The joint institutions tend to use both names in parallel."
 * Something like that. What do you think?--Hadžija 18:16, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

The problem is that both are recognized by the government of Bosnia-Herzegovina. "Bosanska Dubica/Kozarska Dubica". Pov comes in when one recognizes only "Kozarska Dubica". This would be unfair to the Bosniaks and Croat minorities. What is wrong with following the BiH government? Vseferović 20:05, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, it doesn't matter what the joint institutions use or not. BiH is a decentralised state, and the official names of towns are regulated by the Закон о територијалној организацији и локалној самоуправи Републике Српске. It doesn't matter what I or you think about it, that's the way it is. Whether the name is discriminatory is a matter of opinion. Even if it is discriminatory (and I don't think it is), that is the official name. Wikipedia merely reflects the reality, and if the name offends you so much, you should try to change the official name with a citizens' initiative or petition. I recognise the name issue is complex, so I invite you again to write a section explaining the intricacies of the problem - but please write about things as they are, not the way you'd like them to be.--Hadžija 20:37, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Name
The town is called Kozarska Dubica, but is used to be called Bosanska Dubica. What the Federation or central government does doesn't matter one jot, because they don't have any authority over Republika Srpska in this area and as you can see, RS has made the name Kozarska Dubica official.--Hadžija 16:06, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

There is no central government, there is 2 entites governemnt and the parliament is consisted of people from both RS, Federation and Distrikt Brcko.

And the Federation calls the city Bosanska Dubica while the official name of the city is Bosanska Dubica/Kozarska Dubica.

My suggestion is that you go to the city and vote in the next election and you will se the name of the city. Alkalada 08:35, 11 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Ok, how many times I have to repeat that if you have "/" sign in documents that you do not have one but TWO names. If documents have "Bosanska Dubica/Kozarska Dubica", those are two names, not one, and we speak about two names used equally, not about one (frankenstain-made) name composed of two names. PANONIAN  06:53, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

But PANONIAN, all that matters is what the law says, and anything else is common usage. Of course we should make a note about that dual usage in documents, but while documents are official, I'm sure you'll agree laws are a lot more official.--Hadžija 18:30, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Question
(For Estavisti) Explain to me how English is your naitive language, since you live in Serbia. Knowing English and learning it before Serbian (native) are two different things.

I want to ask why is name of this city Bosanska Dubica, when is official name Kozarska Dubica please visit  www.kozarskadubica.org Just about 1000 people wrote petition abuot change of name to Bosanska Dubica What about other 30000 peole who want name Kozarska. In the name of those 30000 people who live in Kozarska Dubica, you have to change name on en.wikipedia !!!