Talk:Dublin Pride

Overview
Posted up a basic overview and entry for Dublin Pride. Will update and expand the article over the coming weeks. Martin. --Martin-09-DP (talk) 23:11, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Dont delete this entry
Dublin Pride is massive volunteer festival. We use a corporate private limited indemnified structure because of the accountability standards that it presents but also because its limited structure means that volunteers are not personally responsible from potential losses that could arise.

Other pride cities already have substantial pages. See London Pride and so on. This article is modelled on the entry from London Pride. If their pages are justified and so should ours.

Note the extensive links in the article describing the festival and its importance. Note that these are just a selection of links and further searchs will produce much much more information on the festival.

Martin--Martin-09-DP (talk) 23:22, 12 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Have to say, despite a few issues which I will come back to, that I don't think it is spam. There are issues: linking to the volunteer form is a bit "adverty" and there are too many primary sources from the Dublin Pride website, sourcing information which could be easily sourced elsewhere. Using the news stories as sources would be preferable and they are there.  FlowerpotmaN &middot;(t) 23:27, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the info.
Thanks for the info there. I thought the volunteer link was a nice idea! Again to restate this we are non profit. But I do get your point on it being adverty, but its non-commercial, in the sense were not advertising a product or service per se.

Id like it to stay but its your site i guess. So if you want me to take it out i will. Its not grounds for a complete deletion of the article IMO. Martin--Martin-09-DP (talk) 23:32, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Not my site .... LOL ...., but as I don't think that the article meets the critera for a speedy deletion (A 26 year festival that has major news coverage really isn't a speedy), I have removed the speedy tag. I'll do a bit more editing on the page in a few minutes to try and iron out a few issues. FlowerpotmaN &middot;(t) 23:39, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree. I made the speedy deletion tag in error, and I apologise for it. I did, however, remove the "Volunteers" section from the article as that is construed as wikispam and hence cannot be included; Wikipedia is not for soliciting volunteers for an event, regardless of what it is in the mainspace. Again, sorry for the error. MuZemike 23:44, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
 * (edit conflict) No prob. Yeah, the volunteers section was a bit of a problem. There is an external link to the Pride website. Was juggling things offline there for a few minutes, so I'll go through the article and see what sources in the various newslinks can be moved to proper references. FlowerpotmaN &middot;(t) 23:58, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Cool. Thanks for all your help guys.--Martin-09-DP (talk) 23:56, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
 * To address a specific point. Being a non-profit makes no difference, you can advertise yourself/promote your cause/whatever without money being a factor. We simply don't do that, take a look at things like neutral point of view, external link standards etc. Remember this is an encyclopedia which endeavours to document in balance with the general world view of things, be those views pro, critical or otherwise. --82.7.40.7 (talk) 12:42, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Have made some grammer edits
Have made some grammer and text edits.

Sourcing and references (particularly for the 1980s and 1990s)
Just a few thoughts: There shouldn't be a huge problem in sourcing information for the later events from online sources, particularly for the 21st Century, as they are always covered in the media, but from what little opportunity I have had to look for sources, I think that sourcing for the early days will need people with access to contemporary print and other media sources. I'm not really going out on a limb in thinking that there would be a lot of sources out there, particularly for the events around the time of decriminalisation in 93; while not being an expert on the subject, I did crack open a newspaper at least once or twice in the 1990s, so I know the sources exist somewhere, so if anyone has access to any...? FlowerpotmaN &middot;(t) 17:59, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Pride parades, especially once they hit 10 year anniversary, invariably have "history of" documentations. Even if self-published it can help our readers understand the subject. Even if it's unrefernced to start it would likely help as 25 years on there's little doubt someone did something back then. We want some interesting tidbits and milestones and those will take time to find and write well. -- Banj e  b oi   01:27, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I have access to some Irish newspaper archives. I'll see what I can do! Ebelular (talk) 12:46, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

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