Talk:Duchess of York

Duchess of York
Somebody had recently changed this article to include that Sarah Ferguson remains The Duchess of York to emphasize the fact that she is the mother of two British Princess. However, this is incorrect. One must remember that she was not just the Duchess of York during her marriage, she was also Countess of Inverness and Baroness Killileyah and therefore if this was true she would have retained a 'Her Grace' even if she had lost the 'HRH' style as part of the divorce proceedings. Sarah, Duchess of York was only ever HRH The Duchess of York during her marriage and after her divorce she became knows as Sarah, Duchess of York, which means Sarah [formerly the] Duchess of York. The lost of the York title is reflected in the fact that there is no definate article in her name, showing everyone that was the Duchess rather than she is THE Duchess of York. As aformentioned, Sarah is NOT Her Grace The Duchess of York. In fact, the style is misleading because Sarah is in fact nothing. She is not the wife of the Duke of York, she is not a peer, she is not the Duchess of York and she is not a member of the royal family. Sarah, Duchess of York retains the title as if the title were a name and is permitted to use the style as a matter of courtesy. In fact, she may as well not have any style at all given the fact that it means absolutely nothing. When sarah remarries the York title will lapse and if she marries a Duke of x, she will become Her Grace The Duchess of X. If she marries a Mr X, she will become Mrs X and still lose the York title.
 * You're completely wrong. Take a look at this PDF file from the official website of the British monarchy, which shows the members of the Royal Family. She is still a member as the mother of two princess, like Diana, who was the mother of two princes. So it's not true that she is nothing. The only right thing that you have noticed is that she will loose "Duchess of York" after her name, if she marries another person. Also it's not only Sarah who is not THE Duchess of York after divorce. Diana wasn't also THE Princess of Wales after her divorce. All of the divorced wives of peers cannot be THE Duchess/Countess of X and their titles change to "Y, Duchess/Countess of X", but it's not a good reason to say that she's nothing and isn't a member of the Royal Family. It would be better if you checked the official website of the British monarchy before saying these things. Keivan.f  Talk 15:03, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

The Royal Family website itself is often wrong and contradicts itself; I would not rely on it as a reliable source if I were you; I would rely on Debrett's and good common sense. If she was still a member of the Royal Family, she would be H.R.H. or titled the Duchess of York. She is titled Sarah, Duchess of York in the manner of a dowager; otherwise there would be no good reason for her and Andrew to be divorced and for her to not be entitled to support from the Sovereign Support Grant and to represent the Queen at official duties. However, as she was divorced from Andrew, she is NO LONGER a member of the Royal Family and is not to be considered such by any reputable source. 98.10.165.90 (talk) 22:20, 29 October 2017 (UTC)