Talk:Duchy of Rambouillet

Duchy of Rambouillet passed to the House of Orléans in 1793 ???
Quelle ânerie ! Please pardon my French!

Here is the article: "The Duchy or Duke of Rambouillet was a French Peerage created for Louis Alexandre de Bourbon, Légitimé de France, Count of Toulouse, youngest legitimised son of Louis XIV and Madame de Montespan.

The Duchy-peerage was created in 1711 for Monsieur de Toulouse and was at one point held by the famous princesse de Lamballe. Lamballe was the widow of Louis Alexandre de Bourbon, price de Lamballe. As the Lamballe couple died without issue the title passed over to the House of Orléans via Louise Marie Adélaïde de Bourbon, sister of the Prince of Lamballe and only surviving grand daughter of the Count of Toulouse. The following is a list of people who held the title."

" The title passed to the House of Orléans, it joined the many titles the family owned. It has not been revived. At the death of Marie Louise of Savoy, the duchy passed back to her father in law who died in 1793 thus passing to Louise Marie Adélaïde."

Princesse de Lamballe, "duchesse de Rambouillet" ?

"Duché de Rambouillet" belonging to the House of Orléans ?

Facts:

The domain of Rambouillet was sold by the duc de Penthièvre to his cousin Louis XVI in 1783, became a "bien national" during the French Revolution, and was never privately owned afterward, remaining in the "liste civile" of the French Governemnt & becoming presidential residence in 1895, which it is still to this day.

The Duchy of Rambouillet lasted two generations, from 1711 when it was erected duché-pairie for the comte de Toulouse, unti 1783 when sold to Louis XVI by the duc de Penthièvre, son of the comte de Toulouse.

The only "duchesses de Rambouillet" were
 * Marie Victoire de Noailles, wife of the comte de Toulouse
 * Maria Teresa Felicitas d'Este, wife of the duc de Penthièvre.

If the princesse de Lamballe ever became "duchesse de Rambouillet", we should have copy of the "lettres patentes" creating her such.

As far as Rambouillet is concerned, the only thing Penthièvre did for his beloved widowed daughter-in-law, was to transform part of the domain not far from the castle into a Jardin anglais with a pavillon des coquillages & a couple more small buildings, so that she would have a garden similar to the queen's hamlet at Trianon. Then he had to sell the domain to Louis XVI.

--Frania W. (talk) 06:15, 25 November 2010 (UTC)