Talk:Duck family (Disney)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 October 2016
NDEdminson (talk) 20:18, 1 October 2016 (UTC)


 * @NDEdminson: You need to include your requested edit when you make the request. —C.Fred (talk) 20:20, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

Periodical addition of controversial material
There is an user/ip who periodically adds controversial material to the article without using the edit summary or the talk page to explain why he thinks his edits improve the article. The edits have been continually removed with explanations on why these edits are not good, and the same explanations have been posted on the user/ip's talk page, but he hasn't answered and keeps adding the same identical text over and over again, which has caused this page to be often protected. Here is an example of a controversial edit, and there are so many things wrong with it that it would require a long time to list them all. A few comments on the linked edit: some characters are one-shots whose notability has not been proven (the are hundreds of one-shot relatives that could claim a place in this article, which would become unreasonably long); some expressions are obviously POV ("one of the most beloved duck masters of all-time", "the famous Chilean cartoonist"), others are examples of original research ("Therefore, she couldn't be a 100-year-old woman in the mid-1950s, as suggested by Don Rosa's chronology, and it would be more appropriate to consider her to be a great-granddaughter of Cornelius Coot", "He possibly was a son of Cornelius Coot", "It has been suggested that he is also the grandfather of Kildare Coot", "It has been suggested that she is the grandmother of Kildare Coot"); Della and not Thelma is the official name of Donald's sister; the long passage to prove that Fethry is Donald's cousin is redundant, since nobody is questioning it, and so on. If anyone wants to add the same information again, I think it would be appropriate to use the talk page first in order to discuss how the article could benefit from the new text. --Newblackwhite (talk) 11:14, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I agree with everything here. I wish we could get the person to stop.★Trekker (talk) 15:26, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

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Kildare and Dugan
I'm a Disney comics fan and I wanna know where the names "Kildare Coot" and "Dugan Duck" come from, since they have not appeared in the US yet. Even the Inducks lists Dugan under his original Portuguese name, Biquinho, yet has Kildare as "Kildare Coot", despite the fact he has never been translated to English. Are these "preparation" English names in case these characters ever make it to the US in the future, yet characters like Humphrey Gokart/Umperio Bogarto, who had no English name up to that point, and O.K. Quack beat them to it. Where do those names come from? Well, Dugan apparently DOES have ONE story published in the UK. Does his name come from that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by NatureLover96 (talk • contribs) 14:08, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

Della Duck standalone article proposal
Because Della Duck is currently just a redirect to this page, which doesn't have much content on the character, I created a draft standalone article at Draft:Della Duck. I can't move it to Della Duck myself (because the redirect is there) so I submitted it to Articles for Creation. However, my AfC submission was rejected, with the reason given as: "This draft is a request to spin out an article, a form of splitting.  Proposals to spin out a topic from an article into another stand-alone article should be discussed at the talk page of the existing article."

This seems inconsistent with what's on the WP:SPLITTING page, which says "If an article meets the criteria for splitting and no discussion is required, editors can be bold and carry out the split." I don't see anything controversial here about creating a standalone page for the character, given the unique and notable coverage the character has gotten over the past 1.5 years. But hopefully people will agree either way, after looking at the Draft:Della Duck page, there's more than enough content on the character to justify having a standalone page. The content on this page could even remain as-is, but with a wikilink to the new primary page added.

So, I propose that Draft:Della Duck be moved to Della Duck and become a standalone article for the character. Do you support? Does anyone oppose? If so, can your opposition be addressed through updates to the draft? Thanks for your feedback. Danazar (talk) 04:45, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Danazar: Wow, that looks an incredibly well-researched and footnoted article. Yes, we should definitely split out the article. -- Toughpigs (talk) 18:12, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I also support this proposal; the standalone article is a significant and well-crafted expansion on the subject of Della Duck. RM VM (talk) 20:17, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
 * It's been 10 days, and no clear objections. I will move the draft. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 18:07, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Donald's birthyear
While I know there are Barks fans that outright hate Don Rosa, Don's (Mc)Duck family tree sets his birthyear as 1920. I don't mean to say Don should be the one-and-only authority to replace any other sources, but even ignoring my own fanboyism of Don's work, he's certainly significant enough as a source to be included when it comes to Donald's birthyear. --2003:DA:CF39:B851:60DE:A8F6:AF5E:D297 (talk) 22:17, 7 October 2023 (UTC)