Talk:Duke in Bavaria

So-called references
I move this over here, as it is not a proper reference section, but rather gives factlets about various members of that line.

==References== Elisabeth (1837-1898), who became Empress of Austria, has many biographies. Karl-Theodor (1839-1909) was a famous oculist; Fürst und Arzt by Richard Sexau 1965. Their father (1808-1888) enabled the sponsorship of Richard Wagner by his cousin Ludwig II of Bavaria.

Str1977 (smile back) 10:54, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Father and son ?
Johann of Zweibrücken-Gelnhausen (1698 - 1780) and Wilhelm (1752-1837) ?

Were the father and son ? It's not clear for me. Andrea1984 (from the German Wikipedia--80.121.72.196 (talk) 21:43, 20 January 2008 (UTC)