Talk:Dundee F.C.

Player of the Year
I thought it appropriate to start this section, it's incomplete and may not be 100% accurate. 77.99.127.22 (talk) 19:56, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

Point of View
I noticed the page was marked as being written from a fans point of view rather than a neutral point of view. I have tried to neutralize the recent updates to the history section and make them more neutral friendly. 77.99.127.22 (talk) 19:56, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

Trolling set right
Someone updated the squad list to include Christiano Ronaldo and Messi. I wish :P Anyway I have removed this and set it right. 77.99.127.22 (talk) 13:42, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

21st Century
I have added a little bit roughly covering the last two years as nothing had been added to this section since Dundee were announced to be replacing Rangers in the premier leage at the end of the 2011-2012 season. If anyone would like to expand on it feel free. 77.99.127.22 (talk) 13:42, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

Capacity
is Dens Park's capacity as much as 13,000? I was under the impression it was circa 10,000-12,000. There did not appear to be an empty seat at the UEFA Cup tie against Perugia and the attendance was reported on UEFA's website as 9,911.
 * The official capacity is 12,085 Marks87 23:31, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
 * The most recent home programme for the game versus Morton on 17/01/09 has the capacity as 12085. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.149.137.176 (talk) 06:46, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
 * The second post on this link http://www.dundeefc.co.uk/dfcforum/topic.asp?topic_id=28753 (from Dundee FC's Operations Manager) states that the official capacity is 11,856. Dpmcalister (talk) 13:20, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
 * We are lead to believe the official seating capacity is 11,850 going by Dundee's official website, However, I know there is a small part of the stadium which is still terracing to the right of the South Enclosure if facing it from the Main Stand, This space is completely unused and no tickets are sold for the area, however rumors set the capacity (if it were) used at over 12,000 77.99.127.22 (talk) 13:36, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

Emblem
Can anyone explain the significance of the symbols on the clubs crest? You can write it in here if you like. --202.47.49.158 (talk) 04:15, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Notable Players
I've just worked through the Notable Players list and reduced it right down. Personally, I don't think the section is required but would like some discussion before removing it. 82.197.79.37 (talk) 08:32, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Obviously no-one else is interested so I'll remove the tag and leave it with the list I've included. 82.197.79.37 (talk) 14:48, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I have removed the Notable Players section and replaced it with the Hall of Fame section as the club now have their own Hall of Fame and, I believe, this is a better indication of notable players. Dpmcalister (talk) 07:31, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Merge proposal
The two articles Dundee Our Boys F.C. and Dundee East End F.C. do not contain sufficient content to warrant separate articles. The content could easily be merged to Dundee F.C., and the two articles should be made into redirects to Dundee F.C.. – PeeJay 19:54, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree. Unless someone can find a decent source which could be used to substantially expand those two articles, there really isn't any need for them. Bettia   (rawr!)  14:36, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Both articles have improved now, so they can be kept. Bettia   (rawr!)  12:41, 9 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Support. Neither predecessor club was particularly notable, only playing for a few years and not in the Scottish Football League. The history of those clubs can be covered within the main Dundee F.C. article. The same could be said of the three predecessor clubs of Aberdeen. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 09:16, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Strongly disagree - these two clubs were separate entities in their own right, each doing rather well in the Scottish Cup in their own right. No problem at all with keeping them as they are - stub articles are fine. - fchd (talk) 18:13, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Support. While both clubs were separate entities they became one entity and, as such, should be merged with the main Dundee F.C. article. Dpmcalister (talk) 18:59, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Disagree. The two articles in question were very sparse when I first made my decision. Having reviewed them since, they contain enough information to, in my view, warrant being kept as separate articles. Dpmcalister (talk) 15:26, 29 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Disagree - work the articles up rather than complain about lack of content. If Liverpool and Everton were to merge tomorrow, would you suggest that both current pages should be merged into one? WikiGull (talk) 15:16, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Probably an even better analogy would be Rushden & Diamonds - both the merging partners Rushden Town and Irthlingborough Diamonds still have their own article detailing their history pre-merger. - fchd (talk) 15:39, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Support. The clubs concerned voluntarily combined to create Dundee FC. This was because neither club was of sufficient stature to be able to convince existing Scottish League clubs to support either of them for election to the Scottish League. Having voluntarily decided to give up their own identity in 1893 I therefore cannot understand why anybody now would see them as anything other than as founder clubs for Dundee FC and thus a major part of Dundee FC early history. The links are continuous. For example, I'm sure Dundee played at the Our Boys ground at West Craigie Park for at least half of the 1893/94 season before moving to the East End pitch at Carolina Port. I'm also fairly sure that the club colours were drawn from Our Boys and East End. In addition, some of the first Dundee FC players were drawn from Our Boys and East End. Without the merger of the clubs then, Dundee FC would not have existed, therefore by extension, I think that their history should be regarded as a part of the early history of Dundee FC. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.149.137.176 (talk) 07:32, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Disagree largely on the basis that both clubs played a decent level (i.e. in the Scottish Cup) prior to the merger and are therefore notable in their own right. пﮟოьεԻ   5  7  14:42, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Disagree as both contain too much information to be made in to sections of the Dundee FC page, so would seem totally out of place if added into the main Dundee page. Both were reasonably successful in their time of existence, albeit a fairly short period of time.Salty1984 (talk) 19:34, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Disagree the articles are good enough to keep them. Doma-w (talk) 23:23, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Disagree the articles would be much more educative on their own and more than big enough to be independent articles.--Sioraf (talk) 21:05, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Early 20th century
"The club were relatively unsuccessful in their early days until the Scottish Cup win of 1910"

Not true - the club actually finished 2nd 3 times in the Scottish League before the 1910 Scottish Cup win. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.211.19.241 (talk) 00:08, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Late 19th and early 20th century
I'm going to suggest that this section should have more Wikilinks where appropriate. MrScorch6200 (talk) 23:48, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

I think that's fair. I've since added a number of Wikilinks for the various dates, players, seasons & teams mentioned in the section. 29 October 2013. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.158.124.190 (talk) 01:20, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

I've removed the Ref suggesting 'more Wikilinks where appropriate' (see above 23/10/13) as the links were added on 29/10/13 and no other suggestions have been made re this Section since then. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.162.230.186 (talk) 06:55, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

1999 merger claim
I have removed the piece about the supposedly agreed 1999 merger with Dundee United, as this has not been reported as fact, either at the time or subsequently; the news pieces in connection with it recently only report that Roger Mitchell claims it was agreed, while some reports also include quotes in response from Peter Marr refuting what Mitchell says. I think unless / until reliable third party sources state the merger plan as fact, it doesn't warrant inclusion in the article. Jellyman (talk) 14:47, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

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New Stadium in 2000s
The section talking about the new stadium proposals in the early 2000s does not cite its sources, but some of it does not quite fit with my recollection in terms of what happened. A joint stadium for the two Dundee clubs was mooted with a planning applications for a site at Caird Park being submitted and initially supported by both clubs. However after the bid failed in 2002, it was reported that Dundee were still keen to progress with the idea of building this new stadium at Caird Park, although it was less clear at this point whether Dundee United were going to share it. Dunarc (talk) 21:31, 16 December 2020 (UTC)