Talk:Dundrum Town Centre

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is the starbucks outlet on college green not the first, Dundrum second?

Nope, Dundrum predates College Green, which is only fairly recent. DCU actually predates Dundrum, but its' a concession in a resturuant rather than an outlet of itself. --Rdd 12:29, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

You are in fact both wrong- the first starbucks in ireland was in fact the one in I.T. Tallaght

Say 'fact' again. Go on. I dare you.

fact

Hey! Please sign you contributions. (Sarah777 21:45, 25 June 2007 (UTC))

Power consumption
One of the Centres own info boards says that power consumption is 4 MW, not 23 MW as stated in the article. 23 MW is an awful lot of electricity. Suckindiesel 19:35, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

The starbucks in the Microsoft EOC was the first one in Ireland

The biggest
If someone tries to call it the biggest again... the trafford centre is 118,766 square metres, a good 38,000square metres bigger, dundrum will only be bigger when it is finshed plokt 16:00, 6 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Bluewater, UK, has a sales floor area of 154,000 m² (1,600,000 ft²). So even when phase two of Dundrum Town Centre is complete, it still won't be the biggest in UK & Ireland let alone Europe. Wiki01916 10:31, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Request for image
Does anyone have a photo we can stick up? The last one was deleted. Wiki01916 10:32, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Largest shopping center
Is Blanchardstown bigger than Dundrum? I can't find any references. --Bardcom (talk) 21:54, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmmmm - stranger still, the Blandchardstown Center website states "180 shops", and lists them here . But there's only 119 shops listed, and 22 concessions (located within the shops).  Still only a total of 141.  And that's before you remove the double entries such as "Boots Upper Level" and "Boots Lower Level", or "Permanent TSB ATM's - I kid you not!).  By my count, there's only 114 shops.  In DTC, there's 149 shops (count them here - ).  Can anyone throw some light on this please?  --Bardcom (talk) 22:09, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Blanchardstown is bigger if you count the shops in the retail park area around the main building; Dundrum is bigger if you only count the area actually under one roof. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.229.17.103 (talk) 12:05, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Competition
Maybe someone should put in something about how the old shopping centre lost all of it's business. As far as I know, places like Rita's, the bookshop, hermans, the men's wear shop I believe is closing too. I remember it got some coverage on RTÉ that most of the shops were getting no business, I know there was some controversey surrounding it at the time, I can't really remember the details tbh Megapeen (talk) 19:08, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

List of Shops
Do you guys think we should have a page listing all the shops in the town center? If so I'll get to work on it. ChrisSalij (talk) 08:53, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * It's a good idea if it is kept up to date. These things tend to change frequently though, and if the article isn't updated, it results in an out-of-date article which is never good.  --HighKing (talk) 13:44, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Well then I'll get the ground work done and I'll make it a point to maintain it. Assuming that a tenant starts or finishes once every 6 weeks, it shouldn't be too difficult. :) ChrisSalij (talk) 07:31, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Great! I'll help out as much as possible.  You may find though, that a list of the shops gets overly long, and might  be better in their own article called List of retail outlets in Dundrum Town Centre or something like that...  --HighKing (talk) 09:55, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I made a good start with creating a page like the one above (with that name) but it was deemed as a page not suitable for wikipedia. Oh well. guess it aint an option. ChrisSalij (talk) 19:26, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I missed the creation of the page. I've asked for the page to be restored.  --HighKing (talk) 20:55, 4 July 2010 (UTC)


 * As per WP:NOTDIR and WP:NOTINDISCRIMINATE we almost always don't add indiscriminate lists of stores on articles. Wikipedia is not a retail guide or a business directory. Individual franchises do not inherit notability just because they exist in a town centre or shopping mall. There are exceptions to the rule, for instance large department stores or anchor stores, or notable local businesses so long as they are thoroughly described and contain reliable secondary sources outlining their importance to the subject article. The list I have reverted (on three occasions now) does not have anything evidence of this. There is no reason to keep it. Ajf773 (talk)
 * You're misinterpreting those policies and possible other related guidelines. Your position is not supported anywhere is policy or guidelines. WP:NOT refers to articles where the majority (or entirity) of the article is of a particular type - for example, articles that are *only* lists. Even then there are many "List of..." type articles and there are guidelines to assess what is allowable and what is not. Note that WP:NOTDIR specifically states Of course, there is nothing wrong with having lists if their entries are relevant because they are associated with or significantly contribute to the list topic.. But again, this is for "List Topics" ... i.e. articles that are only a list.
 * In much the same way, WP:NOTINDISCRIMINATE also refers to articles where the majority of the content is a list. It clearly states "Wikipedia articles should not be..." and does not provide any guidelines on using lists *within* articles. Nor is the list of stores included in this article an "indiscriminate" list. I clearly stated that the list included a sample of *notable* stores and the stores listed all have their own WP articles. Although WP:CSC does not apply to embedded lists, I always try to apply one of the criteria which is lists as Every entry meets the notability criteria for its own non-redirect article in the English Wikipedia.
 * The relevent guideline for this article is from the MOS - embedded links (linked to from the heading on the WP:NOTDIR section). It clearly states Articles are intended to consist primarily of prose, though they may contain lists. You can see the sample "Prose" section uses similar formatting to "list" a series of notable buildings in New York. Exact same principle as used in this article. The information is relevant to the article, in context, and clearly is not intended to be an exhaustive list. -- HighKing ++ 14:23, 28 January 2017 (UTC)

request for a reference
Does anyone have a reference to back up the claim made in the 'Future' section of the article? It seems like POV. Dylan 23:41, 20 July 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 123dylan456 (talk • contribs)
 * Would this one http://www.tribune.ie/archive/article/2008/aug/31/slowdown-puts-dundrum-phase-two-in-doubt/ qualify as a good source? ChrisSalij (talk) 11:44, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Got anything more updated than August 2008? Dylan (talk) 16:28, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I see someone took it upon themselves to add this source anyway -_- My request still stands for a more up to date source. Dylan (talk) 20:10, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Ive found and added a more up to date source. Dylan (talk) 22:11, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

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 * Added archive http://web.archive.org/web/20071117021310/http://www.rathfarnham.com/dundrum.html to http://www.rathfarnham.com/dundrum.html/
 * Added archive http://web.archive.org/web/20101226031320/http://www.dundrum.ie/awards/dundrum-town-centres-awards/ to http://www.dundrum.ie/awards/dundrum-town-centres-awards/
 * Added archive http://web.archive.org/web/20100127111748/http://www.dundrum.ie:80/press/dundrum-town-centre-awarded-shopping-centre-year-2009/ to http://www.dundrum.ie/press/dundrum-town-centre-awarded-shopping-centre-year-2009/

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