Talk:Dunster/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Montanabw (talk · contribs) 22:52, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

I will review this article and be back shortly with comments. Montanabw (talk) 22:52, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

"Reviewer's comments': What a lovely town! Nice comprehensive article but needs some fixes: Hope you will be able to address these issues.   Montanabw (talk)  07:04, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
 * 1) lots of dead links, need to fix those.
 * Links fixed (Don't know how I missed that many).&mdash; Rod talk 15:48, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
 * 1) "Tor (a rocky outcrop)" Meh, perhaps just link to Tor (rock formation), I think that will do fine, even us Yanks have a rough notion that a "tor" is not a proxy network!  ;-)
 * Done.&mdash; Rod talk 15:48, 29 June 2015 (UTC)}
 * 1) Ditto " annual precept (local rate)" - link to an article that explains this, I have no clue even what a "local rate" is - I'm not from the UK ... is this a property tax, an income tax, a per-capita tax...?
 * Linked to Rates (tax)}
 * 1) "There are in Dunster a range of heritage sites and cultural attractions", wordy. Perhaps "Dunster has a range of..." or "Dunster is home to" or something  bit less passive voice?
 * Done.&mdash; Rod talk 15:48, 29 June 2015 (UTC)}
 * 1) COnsider expanding the first paragraph of the history section and rewrite "There was a similar earthwork on Grabbist Hill[9] and another at Long Wood Enclosure.[10][11][12]" - as a reader, I am asking, why does this matter at all, and are these places in Dunster??"
 * Reworded to show they demonstrate important early history in the immediately surrounding area.&mdash; Rod talk 15:48, 29 June 2015 (UTC)}
 * 1) William de Mohun, William I de Moyon, and William de Moyon confusing, same person or two/three different people? Add "the de Mohuns" Are they related to one another, perchance?
 * Changed to William I de Moyon (alias de Moion, also de Mohun) - after the Norman Conquest many of the families of the French nobility changed their names over the next few hundred years to more English sounding names - so yes all part of the same dynasty of Lord of the manor.
 * 1) Perhaps link "Grade I listed building"
 * Done.&mdash; Rod talk 15:48, 29 June 2015 (UTC)}
 * 1) Maybe briefly touch on why the harbour is gone... was it silted in, hence the swamps of today, or...? Particularly as there still seems to be a beach?  What happened here, geologically?
 * New land was laid down which became the marshy area between the village and the beach - I've added a bit to try to explain this.&mdash; Rod talk 16:50, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
 * 1) "Somerset County Council is responsible " Hmm, I'd want to start the paragraph with "The" - except all the preceding ones are.  Maybe to a copyedit to smooth things out.
 * Reworded.&mdash; Rod talk 16:50, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
 * 1) First paragraph of Geograph section has the same sentence twice with different footnotes: "During the early medieval period the sea reached the base of the hill, close to the mouth of the River Avill, offering a natural defence and making the village an inland port.[41][42][43] During the early medieval period the sea reached the base of the hill, close to the mouth of the River Avill, offering a natural defence and making the village an inland port.[43]"
 * Removed duplicate.&mdash; Rod talk 16:50, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
 * 1) Perhaps link "dry heath" - or simply heath, that's just British English enough that some folks won't quite be sure what that is.
 * Linked.&mdash; Rod talk 16:50, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
 * 1) Why is "The assemblage of beetles" of national significance? Is that a good thing (variety or something?) or a bad thing (bug problem?)
 * Good for biodiversity there are lots of different types so classified as "of national importance".&mdash; Rod talk 16:50, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
 * 1) "Azores high pressure": I presume it's a warm weather pattern, but any way to link or clarify?
 * Linked to Azores High.&mdash; Rod talk 16:50, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
 * 1) I'd link "convection" but unlink "clouds"
 * Done.&mdash; Rod talk 16:50, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
 * 1) Economy section very, very small. I suggest either expand it or merge it into one of the other sections, preferably the former.  We have no idea what actually makes the town tick, is it just retail, or tourism or...?  Also, is the community richer or poorer than that national average?
 * I've expanded this - but yes it is mostly tourism.&mdash; Rod talk 18:28, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
 * 1) I'd also expand the Education section. I realize there is only one school, but how far away is the secondary school, and has it "always " been this way? (At least for 50 years o so...?)
 * The article did already say "Secondary education in the area is provided by The West Somerset Community College in Minehead" I've added a reference. The village is too small to have had its own secondary education (at least since World War II & there wasn't much secondary education for most people before that).&mdash; Rod talk 18:28, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
 * 50-50 better - On on hand, "college" threw me - we call the schools for the 11 or 12 and up crowd middle schools and the 14 and up kids go to high schools, but on the other hand, I see a gap - where do the 10 to 13 year old kids of the town go to school? You could also expand it a bit by noting that about 143 kids attend, that's cute and quaint; also, I was impressed that they have a swimming pool, that's probably not common for elementary schools in general!  ;-)
 * I've added in as suggested and that Middle school provision is also in Minehead.&mdash; Rod talk 20:53, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
 * 1) Landmarks section has some unsourced material.
 * I've added some references but if there are other contentious claims which needed citations please let me know.&mdash; Rod talk 18:28, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
 * 1) Transport section is only about trains. I presume there are also roads... and where would be the nearest airport?
 * I've added the roads. There are no international airports nearby but I've added the two nearest.&mdash; Rod talk 18:28, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
 * 1) The religious sites section could be moved up to be a subsection of the Culture section, IMHO
 * I've done this but was following the guidelines at WP:UKCITIES.&mdash; Rod talk 18:28, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Sometimes really small sections are an IAR situation, and maybe UKCITIES might want to look at a more logical ordering of sections, but that isn't my battle, it's all good now. ;-)   Montanabw (talk)  19:45, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
 * 1) I see no section on demographics, ethnicity, aging, etc... perhaps add that?
 * I've put this with the economy section.&mdash; Rod talk 18:28, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Could use a copyedit; Starting the paragraph "West street is the oldest; though quieter... huh? Missing a few words there and maybe some introductory phrasing.  Also, good improvements on ethnicity and democraphics, but curious if the population as a whole is richer or poorer than the national or regional average; I see that unemployment is lower and population is older, but if there is an overall stat, that would be helpful - not required for me to pass this GAN, but nice if you can find it.
 * I've had another go at this paragraph. I'm unable to find the income data suggested.&mdash; Rod talk 20:53, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
 * 1) More comments may be forthcoming. 1 am here, gotta go.   Montanabw (talk)  07:29, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for all comments so far which have definitely helped to improve the article.&mdash; Rod talk 18:28, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I tweaked a couple things myself that were minor but bugging me; feel free to revert or alter, as they don't influence the GAN significantly. You've got about 95% of what I pinged all taken care of - I've put a at what's good to go and a  where I'd like a couple more tweaks; it's all fixable and mostly minor, then I should be able to pass this.   Montanabw (talk)  19:45, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

{[y}} Good to go, passed GA! Congrats! Montanabw (talk) 02:55, 9 July 2015 (UTC)