Talk:Dunsterforce

Expansion
Added more detail, most from Nicholson and cut 'n' pasted some background, added pics. Needs the AOH and more from Moberly.Keith-264 (talk) 17:42, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

Suggestion
Stanley Savige has some detail about the protection of Assyrian refugees by elements of Dunsterforce. Might be worth a mention? Peacemaker67 (crack... thump) 21:08, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes but I've run out of steam.Keith-264 (talk) 21:19, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh and I don't mention medals, I only cite them where other people do. Is it any better now?Keith-264 (talk) 22:18, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I've been adding material in the sandbox courtesy of Bean but will need to wait until OH Meso IV arrives (£5 plus postage the hardback!) Keith-264 (talk) 22:45, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I remember vaguely noticing the British Empire entry in the infobox and doing nothing about it. I'm not sure about the second notable commander now, I didn't notice his name in the sources so I'll revisit once OH Meso IV arrives. Keith-264 (talk) 19:48, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
 * AFAIK, Ranald MacDonell was not a commander of Dunsterforce. Hawkeye7 (talk) 20:18, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I managed to forget Erickson (!) but have added details of Ottoman moves from him. It's nice to have a source a mere 14 years old to consult.;O) Keith-264 (talk) 14:04, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Name of Iran/Persia
There is no need to put this discussion in the main article, as it does not relate to the subject of the article at all. The article is  about a particular military expedition. The country concerned was called Persia at that time. Today it is called Iran. A long explanation about the name should not appear in the body of the article, as it is distracting and not directly relevant. It should appear in a footnote, if at all.

If there is a consensus among modern historians about which term should be used when discussing historical events, then that should be used. Otherwise 'Persia' would seem to make more sense up to the time the name was changed.

If Keith-264 feels that a discussion is necessary in the body of text rather than a footnote, then I suggest that he explains why, and justifies his reasoning. Green Wyvern (talk) 13:55, 18 February 2017 (UTC)


 * That's just your opinion man. The name of the place surely matters in an encyclopaedia and since there can be confusion and ignorance over it, the lead is the place to mention it. Thanks for asking. Keith-264 (talk) 15:16, 18 February 2017 (UTC)


 * The name of the place matters, but it should be discussed in the right place, that is, in the entry for Name of Iran, where it is discussed in detail. This is not just my opinion, it is Wikipedia policy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GreenWyvern1 (talk • contribs) 06:53, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I reverted your edit (by mistake because I changed my mind half-way through a rollback but it was too late.) because consensus had not been established. The disputed passage is not a discussion it is a description. I am happy to incorporate the wikilink but it needs a gloss. Perhaps Name of Iran and a sentence? The article is helpful but lacks citations so we have to be careful not to use it as a source. OK?Keith-264 (talk) 08:29, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

How about adding (cf. Name of Iran) at the beginning, or the first use of Iran? 74.10.226.170 (talk) 22:58, 20 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Good idea, wish I'd read this page before editing again. ;o) 'Tis done. Keith-264 (talk) 23:13, 20 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Cool. Yay, everybody happy, everybody dance!74.10.226.170 (talk) 16:07, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

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Casualties?
The section headed "casualties" is truly bizarre. Just one Canadian officer worthy of mention? - Surely an insult to all the others who died? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.173.221.115 (talk) 09:14, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
 * No, it's cited; if you can adduce other casualties with evidence get to it. Keith-264 (talk) 19:59, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

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