Talk:Duplessis Orphans

Additional Sources
I found two additional sources and edited some of the language to make it easier to read. Pizzarush (talk) 22:09, 17 May 2022 (UTC)Pizzarush

Clean-Up
I did a bit of a clean-up of some of the phrasing in the article and added a few additional sources. Worrypower (talk) 19:37, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

Untitled
The Duplessis Orphans received a maximum of $15,000 each, not $25,000 as the article suggests. The president, lawyer and PR rep for the comittee of victims are believed to have received millions and even the bureaucrats received $1,000 a day for processing the files, highly ironic considering that the victims received a mere $1,000 per year interned in the asylums, on top of the flat rate of $10,000. Other controversy surrounds the issue, as the vote on the settlement was held with a show of hands behind closed doors, the results of which were contested because its leaders stood to gain most from the offer. Premier Landry said twice that he gave $50 million to the orphans, whereas the government only officially gave $25 million, leading to much speculation about the possible missing $25 million. Many are still fighting to reopen the case. I might make some changes to reflect this later. --Megaforcemedia 17:09, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I have changed the wording to reflect what the source says [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Duplessis_Orphans&diff=781602545&oldid=766883834]. It mentions these 3 people were paid over $1000 running the program and sitting on the panel. While the source does also seem to simply to imply they were paid the money to process settlement payments, it doesn't seem to explain whether this is really all they did or whether they were doing other things. (The fact it says they were running the program and sitting on the panel seems to imply the money wasn't solely for processing settlement payments so there's a contradiction there.) It also says "Others involved with the paper shuffling were also paid handsomely for their efforts" but doesn't explain what handsomely is. While much more than $1000 a year, an ordinary bureaucrat would not generally be paid $1000 a day for "paper shuffling" unless there's something seriously out of wack in Quebec. This implies a high level bureaucrat. It may be those involved in processing the applicantions were only such high level bureaucrats, but the source doesn't clearly say this. Nil Einne (talk) 06:04, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Scientology
I noticed a lot of the remarks regarding the mistreatment of the orphans by Psychiatrists had no citations, at this page is also linked from the Scientology Page. Either get a citation or clear it up, Scientology has harassed Wikipedia enough already. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.69.160.246 (talk) 06:53, 13 February 2008 (UTC)


 * ? Zusty001 (talk) 01:41, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

Sex Abuse Links?
I have removed links from the See Also section which implied that this is related to the Catholic Church's sex abuse scandal. If there is cited information added to this article which would establish a connection, they could be restored.(RookZERO 19:51, 29 August 2007 (UTC))

Cleanup
I'm going to remove many of the unsourced quotes over the weekend, feel free to re-add them with citation. Sherurcij (speaker for the dead) 20:13, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Context & Connection
I understand from a friend who was an orphan in a Roman Catholic Orphanage that similar separation of children from their unwed mothers in order to have inmates in the RC Orphanages so as to get State monies for their support was done in the United States of America. New York City to be specific. If this is so, there seems to be a pattern and it should be documented and connected with this article. I do not know what to say beyond mentioning this hear say... I'll look for documentation. Emyth (talk) 20:00, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Feb 22, 2015 until today edits
If you look at the edits from Feb 22, 2015 until today you will find some rewriting. The biggest change was the "aftermath" section. This has to be reviewed.--Mark v1.0 (talk) 19:19, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

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Order of concepts introduced
In the second section we are told Duplessis died, but only in the third section we are told who he was and how he was related to the topic - maybe a brief few words in the lede would make sense given it is named after him? --87.242.189.106 (talk) 15:33, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Sourcing
Everything considered, the actual sources provided here seem surprisingly scant for something of such a (Claimed) magnitude. How many in total ever actually made claims? Is there a separate article addressing Quebecois miscertification of illness in general, apart from allegations of abuse? And the current article makes it appear as though much of these allegations are denied explicitly by the Roman Catholic authorities in Quebec; Considering the still prominent place of Catholicism in the Province, this would the issue seemingly contentious in its entirety. Where are the sources for disputes and rejections of these allegations? Zusty001 (talk) 01:47, 23 May 2022 (UTC)