Talk:Dusky moorhen

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Not Enough Content
I just want you to know that the pictures are good, but there is almost no content.Birdsaregood (talk) 02:10, 15 October 2013 (UTC)


 * what they eat 39.38.69.244 (talk) 11:35, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

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Range info is incorrect?
The range for this bird is incorrect. This bird is DEFINITELY not found in India - which is where I live and bird.

From AviBase : (https://avibase.bsc-eoc.org/species.jsp?avibaseid=0BA183A7E9B3EC2E)

Geographic range:

Gallinula tenebrosa tenebrosa: Locally in sw and e Australia and Tasmania Gallinula tenebrosa frontata: SE Borneo to Sulawesi, s Moluccas, L Sundas, se New Guinea Gallinula tenebrosa neumanni: N New Guinea

I suspect the article has been written this way since some authorities lump / lumped this bird with the Common Moorhen - as evident from this para from HBW (can't link to it since it's a paid service)

Taxonomy: Gallinula tenebrosa Gould, 1846, New South Wales and South Australia. Sometimes treated as conspecific with G. chloropus, but sympatric in Wallacea. Three subspecies recognized. Subspecies and Distribution G. t. frontata Wallace, 1863 – Sulawesi through Sula Is (Taliabu), S Moluccas and Lesser Sundas to W & SE New Guinea. G. t. neumanni E. J. O. Hartert, 1930 – N New Guinea. G. t. tenebrosa Gould, 1846 – Australia and Tasmania. Local in New Britain and New Caledonia (probably a recent colonist on both islands), subspecies unknown.

Just want to know if the original author thinks something different... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vndas (talk • contribs) 14:37, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

Pager? Eh?
“The Australian subspecies is larger and pager than...”  Pager? Boscaswell  talk  22:49, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

Is it okay to say how they get food from humans etc. without a source?
So, I've found sources saying they'll eat bread, that they'll forage from rubbish tips, and that they can be found in urban parks and stuff. So from that I think it would be perfectly reasonable to expect that they will eat scraps, and that people will feed them. I mean, what urban bird species isn't going to do that? I've seen this happening myself in the Royal Botanics (why can't people read the signs?!), but I know that's not an acceptable reason not to cite something.

But I can't find any sources for that information. Do I need to cite it then, when it seems obvious enough?

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Watermelon-lemon (talk • contribs) 05:07, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I am trying to follow your thread - you say you have found a source or have not found a source (saying they eat scraps etc.)? Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 05:29, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Sorry Cas Liber - what I am trying to say is that I have not found a source explicitly saying they eat people's food scraps, or that people will feed them (you know, people throwing crumbs at them in parks). But I have found sources saying the following: So from these three facts I think it would be perfectly reasonable to expect the moorhens (and pretty well any urban bird, really) to get fed by people sometimes, and for them to eat people's scraps - even though I haven't found a source explicitly saying either these two things. And you can go out to the park and see these two things happening yourself.
 * They forage in rubbish tips
 * They will eat bread
 * They can be found in urban parks and urban areas in general

So, I haven't found a source saying that people sometimes feed them, or that they eat scraps, but seeing as they both seem obvious facts to me, is it okay to say these two things without citing them?

Thanks, sorry for my poor wording. Watermelon-lemon (talk) 12:27, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
 * A policy that takes some gettting used to when adding content is No original research. You can write what you find in references but you can't make stuff up. So just add what you can find (without adding material that is not able to be cited). Maybe one say we will find it. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:50, 18 August 2019 (UTC)