Talk:Dynamation

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Intro in error
The intro for this article reads in its entirety, Dynamation is the term for the technique conceived by Ray Harryhausen used to combine stop-motion footage with live action by means of split-screen and rear-projection. In point of fact that predated Ray, being used in the original King Kong by Willis O'Brien, and even earlier in his 1925 The Lost World. "Dynamation" was nothing more than a public relations concoction, pretending that Harryhausen had created some new technique for combining stop-motion and live action color footage; he simply had to be much more careful with his composites than previously because of color "registration" problems. Neil Pettigrew, in his invaluable book The Stop Motion Filmography (McFarland & Company, Inc., 1999) describes how Harryhausen achieved each composite, and other than the sizable decrease in the number of on-the-set-projections (front as well as rear) and the related increase in mattes in the lab, there is no significant difference from what Ray did for his b/w pictures. Nowhere does this article mention that use of the word (meaningless as it is) is limited to color film, but that is the fact of the matter, and The 7th Voyage of Sinbad 's article does indeed draw the connection. I know that the "External link" page says Harryhausen came up with "his technique" during filming of The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms and named it later, but that just proves its author doesn't know all that much about his subject. At that time, Ray made his first professional use of his multiple-projections "reality sandwich," which reduced the amount of lab mattes required (and which he developed in his amateur/experimental projects!), but which he had to all but abandon for color productions. For more publicity purposes, Harryhausen later came up with "Superdynamation" (credited on Mysterious Island, for one) and even later, "Dynarama" (The Golden Voyage of Sinbad); Pettigrew dismisses this last as a mistake on Ray's part as, according to Neil, that word can mean only a wide-screen process. This article needs a wholesale rewrite, or more likely removal; maybe a redirect to Ray Harryhausen, which acknowledges almost all of the above, especially in the sub-section 1950s. --Tbrittreid (talk) 21:10, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
 * UPDATE: Note that on Harryhausen's official website we find the following: "It was for the film The 7th Voyage of Sinbad that Charles [Schneer] came up with the name Dynamation. Sitting in his Buick whilst waiting on traffic, he noticed the word Dynaflow on the dashboard. He realised that Dyna was perfect for Ray's style of animation and so the word became a merchandising term for Ray's dimensional animation." It's right here, just scroll down to the bottom section. Note that the word is explicitly referred to as "a merchandising term." It simply does not actually mean anything, invalidating this article's existence. --Tbrittreid (talk) 22:27, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I've upgraded this into a formal nomination for deletion. --Tbrittreid (talk) 20:23, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
 * An anonymous IP added to the bottom of the article, "There may be room to argue the elimination of Lucas' 'go motion' category from Wikipedia for similar reasons." The article was, of course, the wrong place to put it, but I disagree anyway. Go motion was a mechanical device to make a stop-motion puppet move slightly at the moment of exposing the frame of film to add motion blur to the image and eliminate the strobing effect. It is a name for something specific, not merely a word coined as a publicity gimmick. --Tbrittreid (talk) 21:31, 7 April 2010 (UTC)