Talk:Eärendil and Elwing

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Doesn't Aragorn or Sam chant a poem about Eärendil in LOTR?


 * Yes, but we have enough quotes already. -Smack 04:56, 11 Oct 2003 (UTC)


 * It was Bilbo. And it's a really short poem! Only about 3 or 4 pages long... Carcharoth 00:54, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

I understand that the poem in LotR is only a first draft, and that a longer, more polished and complete version exists which was never published. Does anyone know about this? 173.13.153.50 (talk) 22:02, 4 October 2009 (UTC)


 * "First draft" isn't really accurate; the published poem is quite developed and was in fact the twelfth version, not counting the earlier "Errantry" versions. However there was indeed a further development of the poem after the twelfth version, in three more versions. Apparently the last version, intended to be published, was mislaid and the earlier version was published instead.  The final version can be read in The Treason of Isengard. Mnudelman (talk) 21:10, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Dost thou mean "Eärendil the mariner"?--Aaronsdavis (talk) 14:37, 18 April 2011 (UTC)--Aaronsdavis (talk) 14:37, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

The scholarly consensus currently is that Cynewulf did not compose the poem commonly referred to as “Christ 1,” which is the poem where Tolkien found his inspiration for the name. I recommend removing the attribution to Cynewulf. Also, the term “Anglo-Saxon” to refer to the language spoken in early medieval England has been shown to be inaccurate as they didn’t refer to themselves as “Anglo-Saxon.” This term was created in the 19th century and has problematic racist and nationalist implications. It has recently fallen out of use by scholars. I recommend changing all mentions of “Anglo-Saxon” to “Old English.” — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8800:2183:9900:8C6F:D873:E2C8:77C6 (talk) 03:11, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

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