Talk:E-102 Gamma

Robotics project assessment
Hi

I have demoted the article as it was self-assessed by the person who recently expanded it. Self-assessments are welcome, up to a certain level, but above c-class should really go to peer review or preferably ask for an assessment change from the projects.

I will assess it later today. Chaosdruid (talk) 10:24, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure about WP:WikiProject Robotics, but WP:WikiProject Video games and the others allow informal assessments, including self-assessments, for anything below GA-class. I'll keep this Robotics rule in mind in the future, though, as there is one more robotic Sonic character (E-123 Omega) whose article I will eventually take to GAN. Tezero (talk) 15:01, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Actually, if you're going to review it anyway, you might consider reviewing it for GA, as it's been at GAN for about a week and a half. Tezero (talk) 21:56, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I would not really take this on as a GA nom, I do not know enough about the topic to fairly judge whether or not it was covered widely enough, nor would I be able to spot any errors or irregularities for the same reasons. If you haven't had a peer review, then might I suggest that, and putting the article on the GOCE list for a copy edit. I will give it a quick one later today.
 * One thing I will say, is that there are a lot of quotes used as references. It seems to me these are just one ref with multiple quotes, so why not combine them into one ref? The issue is not whether or not that was actually said, but rather whether a statement can be contested or not. It is unlikely that people will contest quotes directly from the game, as most players will recognise that anyway, and if they play the game they can find them. Chaosdruid (talk) 17:56, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Quote refs in this format are pretty standard for video game character articles, though for the games themselves, quotes are often left out as it's assumed that the game, the subject of the article, is the source. (One could make a case that this should be the case for characters, too, but right now it isn't.) Tezero (talk) 17:59, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Indeed, looking again, it seems there are only 7 out of 40 refs that are not primary, and only around 10 individual refs, as many of the 3 primary refs are repeated.
 * You just don't need to do it. One ref does them all, and all those quotes are probably unnecessary. I understand the reason for the first use, "Mr. Robot (by Amy Rose) ", where the ref shows the exact time that he was given the nick-name.
 * Others, such as these two I selected at random, do not need the quotes at all. They are more describing the storyline of the game, like a plot, and very few plots have any quotes in them.
 * [13] "Gamma's story in Sonic Adventure opens with a training exercise as instructed by Eggman". IMO it is not necessary to use a ref. here, it's all the same thing from the same source, and is unlikely to be contested.
 * [19] "Gamma is disturbed when he sees Beta being disassembled in a room on the way to Amy's, but continues on." - the quote used here is the same one, and simply adds "BETA", to prove that it is BETA in the room, IMO unnecessary.
 * The whole paragraph is using the same ref, with different quotes, if you need to quote, put the quotes in the body, use one ref for the whole paragraph. "that's how it's normally done" is ok, only if the other "normally done" examples are correct. Chaosdruid (talk) 18:27, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Notability
Please see Talk:List of Sonic the Hedgehog video game characters for a notability discussion that pertains to this article and its series czar ♔  04:23, 13 May 2014 (UTC)