Talk:ESPN/Archive 1

Vandalism
I spotted vandalism in the Intro im removing it immediately.--Primetimeking (talk) 04:18, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Where to add Jayski's Silly Season Site?
On that site today (www.jayski.com), one of the highlights was that ESPN has now bought the site (it is a link on the front page). Where should it be categorized? AEMoreira042281 01:44, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Attribution/AfD results
Material with respect to the ESPN forums was merged into this page per Articles for deletion/ESPN forums. Edit history for that material can be found in that redirect's history. bd2412 T 18:16, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Huh?
What's with the Mr. Belvadere stuff on here?

And what about the chair-throwing indicent that happened at the ESPN sports studios in 1979, when the network was just beginning. I was not born to have seen that. If ESPN could have broadcast that indicent for only 1:22.

--65.54.97.194 06:50, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

--65.54.97.194 06:50, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Can we include some of the shows that are or were on ESPN
like stump the shump, etc. GrandWizard 08:05, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Logo

 * I somehow assume that ESPN started using their currrent logo in 1984. Is this true? WizardDuck 17:11, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

No, they started using their current logo circa 2002. Their previous known logos were of their current logo inside an oval-like thing and before that it's unknown. Here is an example of their previous logo 71.99.83.251 22:54, 29 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Actually, based on my assumptions, ESPN started using that in 1998. The oval wasn't there before then. The oval was ditched around 2002-2003. WizardDuck 03:58, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Criticism page
There should be a criticism page. ESPN gets criticised all the time. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.86.122.109 (talk) 19:55, 6 January 2007 (UTC).
 * Good idea, but with differing opinions, this could become very POV. Any criticism would have to be sourced, and not just some one's opinion.24.158.102.32 17:12, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

The things that ESPN usually gets criticised are the catch phrases, extensive football coverage, red sox/yankees bias, ACC bias. there are articles over the internet with them.


 * This might be true, but currently there are NO sources and it comes off as very POV —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Carl Von Clausewitz (talk • contribs) 08:40, 17 March 2007 (UTC).

Oh, by the way, YOU NEED TO SIGN YOUR COMMENTS. But anyway, I could probably find a few sources for criticism. And I don't mean to bore you, but I'm HIGHLY critical of the network's bias. 71.99.83.251 22:51, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

well i hate their red sox bias being a yankees fan (67.86.122.109 22:28, 12 June 2007 (UTC))

Executives
I find it odd that a list of executives is being required to be verified by a source. Maybe whoever added the tag should actually go to ESPN.com or the Disney company site and look it up. - Desmond Hobson 21:51, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

ESPN Significant programming rights -- Little League World Series
I noted that ESPN2 first broadcast the Little League World Series in 1997 (ABC first broadcast in 1963, but that doesn't count). If anyone knows when the LLWS got from ESPN2 to ESPN, that would be a useful contribution to the article. Baileypalblue 22:44, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

the ESPN joke in Mean Girls
why isn't the bit in Mean Girls refernced in this page. the bit featured Cady Heron (played by Lindsay Lohan) talks to Karen Smith (played by Amanda Seyfried) which at this scene they made an ESP/ESPN joke. why isn't that mentioned on here.


 * It's in the "popular culture" section. Udonknome 21:44, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Early days of ESPN
I have heard that at first, in its very very early days, ESPN wasn't entirely devoted to sports, but had other types of programs as well. This would explain the name "Entertainment AND Sports Network". Unfortunately, I don't have any citation for this. I think they may have had the sorts of programs that later ended up on "A&E".--KEVP 9/26/07 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 35.8.4.137 (talk) 00:09, 27 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I recall for a time there was a two-hour block of financial news in mid-mornings. I think it was called Biznet but I'm not 100% certain. (This was before the existence of CNBC.) It wasn't produced by ESPN, but by an outside organization which bought the time block from ESPN. — Michael J  05:35, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

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Happy 3rd anniversary to Crawford and Jacobson!
the brodcasting duo will celebrate their anniversary in March 2008 because they did Cold Pizza together, they did First Take together & they host '08 rose parade on ABC back on 1/1/08. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.237.220.220 (talk) 01:04, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Kids Named Espn??
"There are at least 22 children named after the network." Are you kidding me? Anyone who names their kid after a cable channel dosen't deserve children. Please provide some citations as this appears to be vandalism. I can't believe this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.28.70.129 (talk) 03:42, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Look at cites 21, 22, and 23 in the article. The claim is already cited.  The name is prounced "Espin".   Qb  | your 2 cents  18:51, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Favre Watch on Television
the personalities did a great job covering the Brett Favre saga on Around the Horn, Outside the Lines, The Sports Reporters, NFL Live, Mike and Mike in the Morning, Jim Rome is Burning, ESPN First Take, Pardon the Interruption, The Hot List, Football Friday, ESPNEWS Pregame, ESPNEWS Gametime & SportsCenter. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.28.93.134 (talk) 17:39, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

-Is this an advertisement? The Farve watch was an overblown soap opera and was overcovered to an almost embarassing level. I actually think this comment was written by someone at ESPN. That's not a joke, I really do.

lack of objectivity- Advertising on ESPN section
I believe this section has an issue with its lack of objectivity. A good example is, 'With nearly three-quarters of ESPN's SportsCenter audience being male, ESPN is a great network to catch the male viewer's attention.'

Wikipedia needs to be objective I believe this line (even if the evidence suggests that this could be true) needs to be taken out. This line sounds more like a sales pitch than a sentence in an encyclopaedia.

Honans (talk) 06:46, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Neutrality issue.
Most of this article reads like an advertisement for the network. Phrasing like "What sets ESPN apart..." etc isn't very scholarly. I'd suggest that the article needs sweeping rewrites to change its tone. It reads as though it was written by Stuart Scott. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.248.132.217 (talk) 16:55, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

switching programs in mid stream
why do you change programming in the middle of the program that is scheduled. Seems that the racing programs always get overruled by golf,ballgames and lacrosse. Seems us race are always getting left out. Drag racing and nascar are always getting pushed aside for other sports. I am watching golf when i should be watching nationwide at darlington. so what gives? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.226.53.94 (talk) 18:28, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Split!
This article should be split into separate articles on the channel called "ESPN" and the ESPN family of networks. As is, this article is really jumbled. While other ESPN networks -- e.g. ESPN2, ESPN Deportes, etc. -- have their own articles, the flagship network's page is confusingly shared with history and information on the entire ESPN organization. 137.54.10.155 (talk) 21:43, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

pictures
How can this page have absolutly no pictures? We should add some. --24.119.32.80 (talk) 04:25, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

citation?
Given the article's current visibility, I'd like not to add a tag right now, but there's no citation for the following assertion: "For several years in the 1980s, college basketball recruits flocked to east coast universities knowing ESPN coverage would maximize exposure to pro scouts, thus causing west coast universities to be less competitive." And I think there really ought to be--if this is true (or at least alleged to be true) we ought to be able to verify it. Jwrosenzweig (talk) 22:16, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
 * It would be better to put the tag now that it's on the front page--be bold!  There's more eyes on the article now, so someone may be reading the article and either wonder how Wikipedians know the statement or (better yet) cite it.  Attract attention to these problems: if you haven't tagged it, I will.
 * If a tagged statement (or any other) is known to be true, it'll usually be easy for someone else to get a citation for it. If it's not known to be true, it helps to sort out what should be fact-checked or (if dubious) deleted.  Of course, if you've tried to verify it, even better. --an odd name 23:04, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks, odd--your point's a good one. I think I'm still a little hesitant to rock the boat around here, being newly returned--in the old days, nothing we did was usually so visible that it caused major tension. :-)  And I'm totally new to the placement of fact tags.  I did some Googling to try and track down the source, but it's very hard to search for this (finding anything in a search that tries to combine ESPN, east coast universities, and college basketball, is a proverbial haystack needlehunt).  Hopefully somebody knows the truth of the matter. Jwrosenzweig (talk) 00:20, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

India
ESPN was also launched in India. need to include that somehow - Hemanshu 00:36, 15 Dec 2003 (UTC)

ESPN IN LATIN AMERICA
ESP has been broadcasting in Spanish for Latin America since mid 90's Don't know if the name was "ESPN Deportes" since then, but it's a fact that the is the same channel.. and it is not from 2004, it must have been here for 15 Years... I will investigate and correct the information...

Look in the espn media kit and click on espn deportes and it says launched on january 4, 2004.

New Addition
I added some shows that personalities are famous for being on. As you can see the list is incomplete: help me complete it.ChicosBailBonds

Personalities
Can we include a section on the years they were at the network

How about instead of this, make it a seperate page?

I have added a bunch of names and more are on the way and with all these names i think its best to dividde the names by every 4 letters.

Events
I moved the "Events" section to a different page because it is going to end up getting to long, just look at the "See Also" part and it will have a link.

Song "ESPN"
The comedy-folk band Modern Man had a song called "ESPN" on their "Wide Album". It starts with the explanation that a divorce lawsuit was launched because the wife complained that her husband watched too much ESPN. "ESPN, ESPN/You're the reason I'm single again/ Life is for losers, sports is your friend/ And who's got more sports on than ESPN?"

criticism section
I noticed that an anon. user deleted my comments regarding Big Ten bias in college football. Was this because that user disagrees or because the comment was unsourced. I could find a source if necessary, but I was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on this. havardj

ABC/Disney's purchase of ESPN
It'd be nice if this was mentioned. Anyone know the details?

Revolutionizing College Basketball
The game broadcasts were extensive and helped college basketball gain a larger audience. This is commented as citation needed. All I remember is that if you wanted to watch the Arizona/Princeton (1/16) game, you could do it on ESPN and now you are lucky to see highlights of it on the web.

Controversy
At a roast for co-workers Mike Greenberg and Mike Golic in January 2008, an intoxicated Dana Jacobson cursed the University of Notre Dame, Touchdown Jesus, and Jesus Christ. . ESPN has released a statement apologizing for any offense given to the Notre Dame Football program while not specifically addressing the remarks that Jacobson made nor releasing any video or transcripts of her remarks.

Untitled
ESPN IS A WONDERFUL OUTLET FOR SPORTS AND I HAVE ALWAYS RESPECTED THIS SPORTS SHOW. HOWEVER THEY HAVE STOOPED TO A NEW LEVEL. SHOWING THAT BANNER FLYING OVER THE GOLF COURSE THAT WAS DEROGETORY. BAD ENOUGH THAT SOME SCUM DID THAT --- WORSE THAT YOU GIVE CREDENCE TO THAT SCUM BY SHOWING IT ON ESPN. YOU ARE A SPORTS SHOW -- LEAVE TIGER ALONE EXCEPT FOR HIS SPORTS. NO ONE WILL EVER SAY OR DO ANYTHING TO TIGER THAT HE HASN'T SAID TO HIMSELF. LET IT GO. LET US WATCH THE GREATEST GOLF PLAYER EVER WITHOUT YOUR JUDGMENT ON HIS PERSONAL LIFE. HAS NO ONE ELSE EVER COMMITED A SIN????? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.171.104.147 (talk) 18:23, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Analyst
Espn is know to know about the latest news and is represented as our source to all sports things, but how often do you agree with the analysts opinions?

ILLEST x19x (talk) 15:29, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

Split?
This article is getting rather long, and its becoming unclear whether the page is about ESPN the channel, or ESPN the company?

Does anyone else agree with me? ViperSnake151  Talk  21:37, 1 May 2011 (UTC)


 * May I also suggest a History of ESPN article? I recently raised this issue at WT:TVS to no audience. Raymie (t • c) 02:50, 5 May 2011 (UTC)


 * I think you include some information about ESPN Inc. on the ESPN TV page. As the company's flagship property, there wouldn't be an ESPN2, ESPN Classic or ESPNU without the original channel. However, it should be a short summary, with more corporate info on the ESPN Inc. page. SigKauffman (talk) 20:40, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I have now performed the split. We got some disambiguation to do (and to decide whether just "ESPN" redirects to this page, or somewhere else) ViperSnake151   Talk  22:18, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Why was this page moved
I'm not clear I see the point in adding (United States) to the article title. Disambiguation is not needed for the parent article. No one would expect the term ESPN to redirect to anything other than this article, so that should be the title. See WP:COMMONNAME. Starwrath (talk) 02:48, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Agreed. I went ahead and moved it back.    A rbitrarily 0    ( talk ) 22:00, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Template:ESPYs
There is a discussion about the use of ESPYs at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Sports.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 06:32, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

THis a compliant about the way you cover ESPN basketball college games, specifically the ACC tournament. the background noise is so loud, you can't hear the announcers commentary, true they rarely talk about what is actually happening, or how many fouls a player has, or how many total fouls a player has. Occasionally it would be nice to hear what informant they might care to share that pertains to the game. Turn off the background noise, it takes away from the game and adds NOTHINg to it! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.88.137.171 (talk) 22:04, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

No Neutral POV - No Controversy for ESPN ??
Why is the page for "Usher" - who is just a singer - festooned with warnings about lack of Neutral POV and "reading like a promotional piece", while the page for one of the most influential corporations in the world has no controversy or negative statments at all ???

Does anybody understand this passage?
The section ESPN ends with a sentence that is nigh on impossible to parse:


 * In 2011, ESPNHD began to downplay its distinct promotion logo in preparation for a shift of its standard definition feed from a 4:3 full-screen to a letterboxed format, which occurred on June 1 of that year.

I imagine it was more easily understood before a series of edits obliterated its original intent or emphasis; there are several versions floating around on the internet, but none is of any help in decoding the surviving iteration:


 * ESPN2HD began to downplay its distinct promotion logo in preparation for a shift of its standard definition-feed to utilize HD feed for letterboxing on older SDTV's, which occurred on June 1, 2011.
 * In 2011 ESPNHD began to downplay its distinct logo in promotion in preparation for a shift of its standard definition-feed to letterboxed widescreen, which occurred on June 1, 2011.
 * In 2011, ESPNHD began to downplay its distinct promotion logo in preparation for a shift of its standard definition-feed to utilize HD feed for letterboxing on older SDTVs, which occurred on June 1, 2011.

No endorsement is intended or implied by providing the above versions or by citing their respective sources.

Patronanejo (talk) 08:02, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

Addition to "In popular culture"
The punchline reference to ESPN in "Mean Girls" could be noted--Amanda Seyfried's spacey character Karen says to Lindsay Lohan's character Cady something along the lines of "I'm kind of psychic...It's like I have ESPN" when she means to say "ESP". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pr.Dr.PediatricianPh.D. (talk • contribs) 17:34, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Recent section on the fan's $10 million lawsuit
See WP:NOTNEWS. If anything, this section on this recent event should be moved to History of ESPN. By devoting an entire section to this one recent story without including all the other controversies makes this page heavily slanted to recent news. Zzyzx11 (talk) 06:24, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Kraft and his dance.

I am absolutely discussed by your ridicule of Kraft's dancing. He was being playful but he was being described as having a "stroke". I work with stroke patients on a daily basis. I don't care about Kraft but I think your comments reguarding "stroking out" were insensitive and uninformed. Go spend some time with Ray Rice. You are all goof balls. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:100E:B106:8A90:EC68:7DBA:54FE:407B (talk) 14:33, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Perhaps you mean "disgusted"?Wschart (talk) 13:10, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

Grammar improvement
In the 3rd paragraph, the verb tense that should be used is 'owns', as in 'ESPN owns a 20% interest in', not 'owning'.108.217.190.154 (talk) 22:22, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 October 2015
The statement in the 'criticism' section does not have an accurate reference link and is most likely not true.

On September 10, 2015, ESPN has been accused of being anti-Patriots in NFL's Deflategate investigation. This comes after ESPN edited a pro-Patriots article by removing sections that contradicts ESPN's earlier article regarding the Patriots and Spygate. ESPN states the article was given a "tighter edit" after it was posted.[36]

Please remove this statement as it is not cited and does not add anything to the ESPN article.

Efrainrib (talk) 14:03, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done I've removed the statement, but not because of lack of references. The link it used to cite can be seen here, but I'm removing it as ESPN has it's own criticism article, and a bit on one sports team should not be singled out on this page. This also seems to contradict what that article says about ESPN having a "love affair" with a list of teams that includes the Patriots. Cannolis (talk) 01:31, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

Needs citation
Can someone provide at least the name of the court case in this? I'm not sure if the source of this claim is the next footnote from the Chronicle of Higher Education on the Rise of the SEC, which is behind a paywall, but whether it is or not, a claim like this should always include the case name and year.

"Later in 1984, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the NCAA could no longer monopolize the rights to negotiate the contracts for college football games, allowing each individual school to negotiate broadcast deals of their choice." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:1C0:5002:ECF2:C025:9899:E5AD:B32B (talk) 19:08, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 November 2015
Update IPTV provider in infobox to include the following, thanks.


 * iptv serv 4   = Southern Fibernet
 * iptv chan 4   = 1601 (HD)

216.66.32.34 (talk) 19:06, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Mdann52 (talk) 19:41, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 November 2015
Add IPTV Provider - Southern Fibernet IPTV Channel HD - 1601 SD - 601

Vampire25 (talk) 21:42, 10 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. a boat   that can float!   (happy holidays)  14:54, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

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Subscriptions
Are going down. - http://www.breitbart.com/sports/2017/03/08/espn-loses-whopping-422000-view-homes-last-month/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.220.86.65 (talk) 14:52, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

Broadcast in more than 200 countries
that's pretty incredible, since there are only 195 countries in the world — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.246.221.143 (talk) 17:21, 24 November 2017 (UTC)

ESPN possibly getting Fox Sports Net regional editions
https://www.ocregister.com/2017/12/14/how-the-disney-fox-deal-affects-local-sports-coverage/

According to a 2017 article by the OC Register they tried to explain that Fox Sports West in Los Angeles could be converted into ESPN regional due to the Fox/Disney deal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.169.130.165 (talk) 01:15, 21 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Right now, there is still a lot that needs to happen before anything is official. Even if/when the merger gets federal approval, it's still not clear exactly what will happen with the regional networks. This article, and others like it, are hypothetical. — So it goes. (talk) 03:59, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

ESPN
Please visit at |1 to join the discussion on the addition of ESPN in Reliable sources/Perennial sources and it's reliability. Thank You.--Atlantis77177 (talk) 15:36, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

ESPN
ESPN, Inc. is the leading multinational, multimedia sports entertainment brand featuring the broadest portfolio of multimedia sports assets across television (eight U.S. networks plus the sports programming on ABC), a radio network and podcasts, web sites and digital platforms, direct-to-consumer ESPN+, sports' strongest social media presence, endeavors across media on all seven continents including 44 networks outside the U.S., plus owned events such as The ESPYS, X Games and 30+ college football and basketball events. Based in Bristol, Conn., ESPN has approximately 3,800 employees (4,600 worldwide). ESPN Plaza includes more than 1.3 million square feet in 19 buildings on 120 acres (additional 200,000+ sq. ft. rented in two locations nearby). ESPN launched on September 7, 1979, and is 80 percent owned by ABC, Inc., an indirect subsidiary of The Walt Disney Company. Hearst holds a 20 percent interest. ESPN was originally conceived in 1978 by Bill Rasmussen and his son Scott and office space was rented in Plainville, Conn., before the Bristol property was purchased and developed. ESPN broadcasts primarily from studio facilities located in Bristol, Connecticut. The network also operates offices and auxiliary studios in New York City, Las Vegas, Charlotte, Washington, D.C., and Los Angeles. James Pitaro currently serves as chairman of ESPN. He was named ESPN president on March 5, 2018, following the resignation of John Skipper on December 18, 2017. He became chairman of ESPN and Sports Content for The Walt Disney Company on October 12, 2020. 192.234.2.90 (talk) 21:47, 13 October 2022 (UTC)