Talk:Earl Weaver

Was a -> is a former
I decided to change "Was a" to "is a former" because when I see "was a", I think that that person is dead. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.251.121.103 (talk • contribs) 18:00, 26 April 2006‎ (UTC)


 * He most certainly is dead now! &mdash; QuicksilverT @ 15:49, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

MLB Baseball Rule created to thwart Weaver cleverness
I think it would be relevant and interesting to add a sentence or two about the rule that was added to MLB to prevent Weaver's very clever strategy to get an "extra" good at-bat when utilizing defensive-star Mark Belanger at shortstop on road games. For more info about this, see my comment at Talk:Mark_Belanger. Can anyone help me verify? I guess this might be very little-known baseball trivia. --Mmpartee 12:56, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Artificial Intelligence
Seems very unlikely that Weaver himself designed the Artificial Intelligence in his computerized baseball game... contributed possibly, but designed, no way. 24.1.119.65 (talk) 04:51, 13 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I agree completely. Where is the source to indicate that he created the AI for this game?  Until then, I am going to change it to say he possibly contributed. 76.236.120.111 (talk) 04:59, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Professional Appearance Rule
In "Weaver on Strategy", Weaver said that the rule requiring Orioles personnel to wear sportsjackets and ties was implemented by the front office, not Weaver himself.

I agree. Should be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.114.199.115 (talk) 05:48, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Money Ball
Weaver’s extensive use of stats is the front runner for the book Money Ball. Weaver essentially implemented everything that Money Ball stood for but does not get credit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.166.136.168 (talk) 07:52, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Ejections
Changed the section about ejections. Earl Weaver did not hold the record for ejections before Bobby Cox. John McGraw did. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.74.194.78 (talk) 08:12, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Cyzyk Manager's Corner Film
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWQbN0jFo_k

The film can be found on YouTube here, tried putting it under references but I got yelled at. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.192.58.206 (talk) 15:22, 15 January 2012 (UTC)


 * YouTube videos come and go; they're not particularly good as references, unlike text from news and other sources that tend to get archived and are retrievable months and years later for verification. &mdash; QuicksilverT @ 15:46, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Death details
The news of Weaver's death is rather fresh, but it would be good to at least get the name of the cruise ship on which he died, and if he was in territorial waters, the country in which he died for official purposes. Cruise ships tend to stop in ports by day and are underway at night as they head to their next port of call. I performed a cursory search on "orioles fantasy cruise 2013", but nothing relevant was returned by Google. It's very unlikely that the entire ship was chartered for this purpose, as today's cruise ships are so large that special interest groups generally constitute a tiny percentage of the passenger manifest. &mdash; QuicksilverT @ 15:46, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅. I added ship name (from The Baltimore Sun) and itinerary (from Cruise TT website) today. He was only a day away from docking in the States (Ft. Lauderdale). — WylieCoyote 02:34, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
 * ...and someone had inexplicably removed them. Gotta love Wikipedia. — WylieCoyote 04:28, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

started post-playing part of career, as high school baseball coach
Sometime around 5 to 15 years ago, The St. Louis Post-Dispatch ran an article about a year when Weaver coached high school baseball, I think this was at Beaumont, where Weaver had gone to high school; or maybe at Southwest? Someone might want to look this up and add it into this article. The thing I remember most about it was one of his former players telling the reporter that Weaver had told all the players to get their hair cut. The player said, "remember we were high school kids in the 19 50s: we all already had short hair! ... so we decided he must have a brother who was a da** barber ..." Publius3 (talk) 05:08, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Are you sure about this?
I have some questions about this statement: "Earl had a penchant for kicking dirt on umpires, and for turning his cap backwards whenever he sparred with umpires in order to get as close to them as possible without actually touching them."

I remember Earl Weaver yelling at a lot of umpires, but I don't recall him kicking dirt. Are you sure you haven't confused him with Billy Martin? As for the part about him turning his cap backwards so he could get right into the umpire's face, I seem to remember reading the same thing about Leo Durocher.67.45.96.140 (talk) 20:42, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Here's a source for the dirt kicking, but I don't know how much he was known for the cap thing. (The video in this link shows at least once where he turned his cap around, but it doesn't note that he was really known for it.) EricEnfermero (Talk) 20:51, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reply. I checked it out and I was mistaken.  Though Durocher's arguments with umpires are almost as famous as Weaver's, it was indeed Weaver that turned his cap backwards.67.45.106.242 (talk) 13:30, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
 * There is a famous video clip of Weaver turning his cap around during a heated argument with Bill Haller, who immediately ejected him, but I've never read that he did it routinely. I'll see if I can find a source for that.  DoctorJoeE  review transgressions/ talk to me!  16:07, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

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