Talk:Early modern Britain

Here's my attempt -- the major historical events I note in the introduction should all be significant sections, I think. I can do a lot on English Reformation (my field of graduate study) when I get time, but this will take many contributors, and no one should think any of it my turf. :-) Let's write as much as we can, and develop an outline as we go -- this will be a work in progress for a while, I'm sure.  I'll go now and reaim the history template at here and away from English Renaissance.  Thanks in advance for anything you can do -- this article will get big fast, and I'm hoping a lot of people think it worth contributing to. Jwrosenzweig 22:29, 7 Sep 2004 (UTC)

This looks interesting, JW. Let's not get confused between England and Britain though. While it may be true to say that no major battles were fought on English soil until the seventeenth century that is partly because they were in Scotland (Flodden, the Rough Wooing, Pinkie Heugh, etc.) and partly because Scotland was involved in what amounted to civil war for much of the time. Thus it cannot be said that no major battles were fought on British soil until the seventeenth century, nor that Britain was peaceful. These claims are only true of England. -- Derek Ross | Talk 00:52, 2004 Sep 8 (UTC)
 * Excellent call Derek, and one I totally agree with. I was merely copying over material that had been added to English Renaissance, and I'm afraid I didn't give it a good look before doing so.  I don't know much about the Scottish turmoil, though -- do you mind correcting that sentence and fleshing out a little better picture of Scotland? Jwrosenzweig 13:47, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Rethink the Article ?
This article is almost entirely about England. It also is mostly about the period before the Acts of Union 1707 which formed the Kingdom of Great Britain. I think it would be best to start the article again, keeping the subject much more narrowly defined. PeterGrecian 18:26, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Expand the Article
I linked to this article from the History of England article under the "Tudor England" subsection. This was supposed to be the more complete article. Unfortunately, the linking article has more information than this one. I think the linking article should be somewhat reduced and this one significantly increased. After all, this is the period in which England began to significantly rise in power and prestige.

Colonial Expansion
According to the article, after the discovery of Canadian coasts by Cabot (1497), 'Soon after, colonies would be founded in North America'. That's not true: there is a big span of almost 150 years between the Cabot expedition and the first colonies in North America (Virginia/New England).

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: page moved. Derek Ross | Talk'' 21:23, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Early Modern Britain → — Modern is not a proper noun and so should be in lower case according to Wikipedia conventions as per WP:LOWERCASE.'''  SabreBD  (talk ) 22:02, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Just move it. It's no big deal. Do you like bureaucracy ? -- Derek Ross | Talk'' 22:04, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * It cannot be moved except by an admin because there is already a redirect at the location.--''' SabreBD  (talk ) 06:27, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, right. Okay. I'll move it for you then. -- Derek Ross | Talk'' 21:15, 9 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Support. Uncontroversial IMO, the history of the target is trivial but not quite trivial enough to allow it to be moved without admin powers. Andrewa (talk) 09:52, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Support per nom and Andrewa. &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 13:10, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

British Empire
What is this "first British Empire"? There was only one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.147.84.17 (talk) 12:05, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
 * The point being made here is that in the late 18thC the loss of the 13 American colonies forced Britain to turn its attention to Asia, Africa, and the Pacific. In other words, they started again. I am not sure we need this distinction here.--  SabreBD  (talk ) 12:40, 12 March 2015 (UTC)