Talk:Earth Crisis

Missing compilation
You guys don't have this compilation on the page. Why not? Leitmotiv (talk) 07:55, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Shane Durgee keeps getting removed, whyyyyy
I was on tower records to find them so I could listen to a sound sample of the band and they are labeled by towere as "heavy metal" and not as hardcore. While I admit tower is not the ultimate authority on such things (I disagree with labeling doom (band) as metal for example) after listening to a few song samples I would have to call them metal, perhaps even slightly nu metal, but definetely not hardcore.
 * I have to disagree. growing up in this era and scene, this was very much the "Hardcore" sound of the mid 90's.--Threatis 6 July 2005 11:03 (UTC)
 * The "hardcore" sound of the mid 90s wasn't hardcore. Most "hardcore" music nowadays is more akin to metalcore and that crap. BTW, the book The Philosophy of Punk by Craig O'hara describes them as a "shit metal band". Getting beyond the obvious criticism in the quote, he labels them as metal. I think I would agree.


 * Me again, I just went and looked at the page on hardcore and it says Earth crisis fused metal and hardcore, which sounds accurate enough. I think that is a good compromise, no?
 * This should be my last post for now. They are included on the list of moshcore bands which is an offshoot of metalcore. I think it's safe to label them as at least partly metal and have done so. If you disagree with me, we will discuss it.
 * I agree with the comprimise, we'll leave it at that. --Threatis 01:30, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

Listen to their first EP´s, they don´t have the sound of their latest albums (they were more hardcore sounding than the latest albums, wich were more metal, and the last one which was some bizarre new metal thing). Besides they were the quintaessential vegan sXe band, so they weren´t far from the hardcore crowd. I´m removing the bit that says they were hardline since they didn´t label themselves as such in any of their records or lyrics. They were vegan sXe, leaning towards a leftist political stance, and accepting direct action, but it doesn´t mean they were hardline (though hardline did agree on the veganism and direct action issues)). --Violenciafriki
 * Adding Hardline Back, as Karl was quoted as saying that he wished to bring "violence on violence" to Drug dealers, and their ilk. All Music article --Threatis 01:04, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Please can you quote where does Karl says he wants to bring "violence against violence" to drug dealers? If you´re refering to the lyrics to the song "Firestorm", IIRC on the live album "The oath that keeps me free" they dedicated the song to the Black Panthers, because those guys were reacting with direct action against the problem drug dealers were on their neighbourhoods. BESIDES, where in hell was violence against drug dealers restricted to the Hardline movement? In that case the Black Panthers were Hardline... which is ridiculous. Hardline bands were quite outspoken about their affiliation with that ideology (see for example Statement, when they were Hardline, using the X with the crossed AKs on the cover of their EP... etc).

Of course some of their points of view were quite near some points held by Hardline adherents (militant veganism and against drug use), but on the other hand there were other issues they disagreed (for example ExC stated several times they were in SUPPORT of homosexuals and their fight).Violenciafriki 22:06, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

Earth Crisis Face
"Earth Crisis Face is a character of unknown origins whose devotion to the band prompted him to have Earth and Crisis tattooed on his right and left jaw lines, respectively. Little is known about the man dubbed Earth Crisis Face, besides the suppositions that can be drawn from his heavily tattooed head. One can surmise that he is a devotee of not only Earth Crisis and New York hardcore, but of eyebrow tweezing as well, due to his well manicured upper eye line."

This goes until it can be written in a more proper form, and there's some reference. I know he exists (I've seen the picture), and I believe the person is from Holland, but until there's some more info posted there in a more professioal tone, this should be removed. --Threatis 12:26, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Earth Crisis Face is not from Holland, he is from Denmark. I don't believe this subject is significant enough for Wikipedia. 85.159.100.225 08:00, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Genre
Please stop messing with it.Inhumer (talk) 00:13, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Just spotted this... are you saying you have a problem with the addition of metalcore to the info box? I'd be extremely surprised if you were, but sources are trivial to find. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 12:31, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

"Metal-core" was not a term used in the early/mid '90's
As an active participant in the Hardcore scene from '92-'97, I can say with full confidence that there was no "metal-core circle" as the article states. This term didn't come into use until the late '90's/early 2000's with the growing popularity of bands like Hatebreed. We all called bands like Earth Crisis, Culture, Abnegation, and Green Rage "Vegan Metal"..but they were entirely unknown outside of the Hardcore scene. Hardcore at that time was pretty much a blanket term for many different styles and sub-genres, and had more to do with the clothes you wore, ideology you promoted, and scene you were affiliated with. Earth Crisis wore baggy jeans, backpacks, Champion sweats, had short hair, and sang about Earth Liberation and Animal Rights...therefore they were considered "Hardcore". May sound silly, but that's how it was then. Hardcore shows and fests featured bands as far apart stylisticly as Unbroken and Promise Ring. By the time they signed with Roadrunner, many hardcore kids considered them "sell outs"/"rock stars" due to the strong independent/DIY tradition in the Hardcore/Punk scenes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.61.17.89 (talk) 06:06, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
 * He's right.--Omair00 (talk) 23:26, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

The article needs a picture
As the title says, the article needs a picture of the band. I'm not too good at finding appropriate ones so I'm posting here and hoping for your help.--Bloody Rose (talk) 11:41, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

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