Talk:East Asian tea ceremony

tea ceremony
I'm very curious as to why "Japanese tea ceremony" redirects to "Tea ceremony" as if there is only one tea ceremony? In China alone I have experienced five major different sorts of tea ceremony with many variations on each one. I suggest that this topic be moved back to "Japanese Tea Ceremony" with this page used as a disambiguating page for other tea ceremonies. (And yes, I will contribute what I know of some of the other tea ceremonies as I get the full information. I happen to like them.)

Another question is why is this article so empty? Is there no PD description of the ceremony proper available that could be brought in to flesh it out? (Treat these as questions, please, not attacks. I know very little of the Japanese ceremony and there may be a good reason why it is not described.) --Michael 00:47 3 Jul 2003 (UTC)


 * Hitting the web, I've found a lot of information on tea ceremonies in general. If there's no objection from anybody here in 24 hours, I'm just going to go and do the reorganisation I mentioned and add, at the same time, an article describing the various Chinese tea ceremonies I know well enough to describe. --Michael 01:04 3 Jul 2003 (UTC)


 * There were no objections, so the reorganisation has been done, complete with an article detailing the Fujian tea ceremony. --Michael 09:05 7 Jul 2003 (UTC)


 * Anyone know of some non-Asian tea ceremonies?

Yes, Britain and Ireland have a strong Tea culture, with both topping the European tables for annual tea consumption. Somebody should write a similar article! JDnCoke 22:39, 27 November 2006 (UTC) --Sherdwen 04:51, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

Capitalization of title
Why was this article moved to have the title be in capitals? This is against Wikipedia naming conventions. &mdash;Umofomia 06:20, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

The article
As an article this is simply a questionable mishmash of information. Probably we can all agree that a tea ceremony may be a ritualised form of making tea, but to take a description from Japanese tea ceremony and apply it to all tea making is inappropriate and misleading. So is calling Victorian high tea a "tea ceremony." "Tea culture" is a different thing again. This should really be a simple redirect page. Exploding Boy (talk) 16:51, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

The tea ceremony is a hugely important ritual, and certainly should not be a redirect. In the past, victorian afternoon tea has been very ritualised. However, the real problem is the equivocation of high tea to afternoon tea. Afternoon tea was a meal between lunch and dinner. Afternoon tea was effectively dinner itself.Anhydrobiosis (talk) 23:06, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Various forms of tea ceremony are surely important cultural and social practices in various parts of the world, and therefore the existence of a Wikipedia article focusing on this subject is valuable. I believe that the article needs first to delve into why these various forms of so-called tea ceremony have evolved, and to avoid using the expression The Way of Tea (the literal English translation of the Japanese term Chado that came into being in specific connection with the matcha-based practice called chanoyu, or Japanese Tea Ceremony as it is commonly called in English) when discussing the topic of tea ceremony as it is applied to all the various forms which may exist around the world.Tksb (talk) 10:08, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

Terminology of dao/do with respect to tea
I reverted the yi back to dao. The dao/do section is dao not yi(arts), chayi is an easy to translate term "tea arts". Here we are talking about the term dao with respect to chadao. icetea8 (talk) 14:36, 6 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Added Teaism section icetea8 (talk) 09:26, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
 * icetea8, if you cannot provide references to "Teaism" and "Tea Lore" section, I will remove the section as a violation of WP:OR. ―― Phoenix7777 (talk) 09:53, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Agree with Phoenix7777. I just Google searched for "teaism" and it feels like some kind of Google bomb happening. Lots of hype for a cafe chain. No historical references to "Teaism" (as opposed to "Taoism"). Pignut (talk) 22:29, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

Ceremony
There is no such thing as American tea ceremony. Drinking the tea doesn't mean that it is a tea ceremony. The tea ceremony, also called the Way of Tea, is a cultural activity involving the ceremonial preparation and presentation of tea. The manner in which it is performed, or the art of its performance, is called Tea ceremony. Zen Buddhism was a primary influence in the development of the tea ceremony. Much different from just drinking a cup of tea. Remove this from the article.Hafspajen (talk) 11:00, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Removing
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