Talk:East River Tunnels

NJ Transit
Shouldn't some mention be made of NJ transit since almost all their trains to Penn use these tunnels to get to their yard and staging area in Queens? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.193.81.153 (talk • contribs) 00:01, 15 December 2006


 * I don't know that it's really a fact worth mentioning, especially not with the article's current form. Considering the the LIRR (which uses the tunnels for a large percent of its service) gets only a brief mention that the tunnels are the first and only access to Manhattan, I think it would be giving NJT's non-revenue movements undue weight in the article to mention them. If the whole article were rewritten, separating the historical aspects from the modern ones (though I imagine there's very little worth mentioning on the modern end), then it might be possible to sneak in a mention of that, but it's not a very important bit of information. —LrdChaos (talk) 15:23, 15 December 2006 (UTC)


 * In my opinion NJT shall be mentioned. The reason why there are four tubes under the East River compare to two tubes under the Hudson is exactly, that the movement of empty trains was taken into consideration. Can't currently find the source for this.--Pechristener (talk) 05:31, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Amtrak beyond Queens?
If Amtrak NE corridor trains use these tunnels, how do they get past Queens to Connecticut? Is there a bridge over the Long Island Sound? --Jfruh (talk) 03:20, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
 * The Northest Corridor no longer serves Grand Central Terminal and Amtrak itself vacated the premises in the mid-1990s. A new bypass tunnel, new surface track, and an existing freight bridge are now used to allow Penn Station to connect to points north through Sunnyside Yard, totally bypassing the mess that is GCT and Metro-North in the region.  Quoting the NYT, "The bypass project, planned since 1982, will take those trains that previously traveled from Grand Central underground through Manhattan and put them above ground along the Hudson River, from the Javits Center tunnel to the Spuyten Duyvil Bridge."  There was new tunnel built under the Javits Convention Center and a disused freight bridge was rehabilitated. See http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=940DE4D91E3FF934A35754C0A96E948260 for some details before the project was completed. --KJRehberg (talk) 02:01, 18 August 2008 (UTC)


 * The Northeast Corridor doesn't stop at Grand Central Station, but it does still travel through the East River Tunnels, Queens and across the Hell Gate Bridge on the way to the next station in New Rochelle. The Spuyten Duyvil Bridge carries the Empire Service line.  VerruckteDan (talk) 17:12, 13 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks VerruckteDan. What's the Empire Connection line and the new tunnel under the Javits used for? --KJRehberg (talk) 04:12, 30 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I believe that the Empire Connection and the tunnels near the Javits Center are used by the all Amtrak trains headed north from Penn Station into Upstate NY, with the next stop being Yonkers. VerruckteDan (talk) 00:45, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Length of the tunnels
A more precise indication of the length shall be given. The 3900 ft (1.19 km) refer to the underwater section only, the approach section has another average length of 2000 ft (0.61 km), what add up to a length of about 6000 ft (1.83 km) all in all. Soruce: ACSE paper 1159.--Pechristener (talk) 05:20, 5 March 2020 (UTC)