Talk:Eastbourne/Archive 5

Hampden Park Crossing
I recently added a citation to the Hampden Park, East Sussex article where Network Rail, the owners of Hampden Park crossing, say "it is 'likely' the Hampden Park crossing is the busiest in the country". So at most, all that can be included in an article is "thought to be the busiest level crossing in the country". Putney Bridge (talk) 19:19, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Infobox picture
We are having a revert issue on the infobox picture, so here is my rationale for keeping the original (Picture 1).


 * This is an encyclopaedia, therefore photographs should be informative not artistic. Picture 1 shows the pier and the relationship with the beach clearly. The pier is the subject of the photo. Picture 2, although a good picture, it does not add anything to the article. The theme of picture 2 is a sunset. The pier is in silhouette and along with the reflection is difficult to recognise. Putney Bridge (talk) 13:51, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

File:Eastbourne Panorama, England - May 2009.jpg to appear as POTD soon
Hello! This is a note to let the editors of this article know that File:Eastbourne Panorama, England - May 2009.jpg will be appearing as picture of the day on July 10, 2011. You can view and edit the POTD blurb at Template:POTD/2011-07-10. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page so Wikipedia doesn't look bad. :) Thanks!  howcheng  {chat} 17:33, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Panorama of Eastbourne
I've hastily reinstated the above view. It was by far the best image in the whole article. What's more it is to be tomorrow's Wikipedia Picture of the Day! Not had time to examine the other image deletions. Mikeo1938 (talk) 09:17, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
 * For further details about the above see the entry on the Discussion page dated 8 July 2011.Mikeo1938 (talk) 09:24, 9 July 2011 (UTC)


 * O yes - I see! I've removed the too many photos tag as the images have now been significantly reduced. Image selection is an ongoing process, so it is to be expected that images will be swapped, new ones added and some removed. It is important to keep the amount of images at a reasonable level, and to have a range of different images rather than stacking up similar ones. So, one image of a theatre, rather than two, etc. A decent image of the beach would be welcomed, rather than the current one. I've tried a swap, but there could still be improvement. The featured image is actually not that good. I'm somewhat surprised that it is a featured image. The light quality and framing are poor, and though that particular setting is a common one of Eastbourne, I have seen some good framings which give a better understanding of Eastbourne in relation to the sea, and its overall layout. The grass at the bottom is an unwelcome diversion. I wonder if I can clean it up and crop it slightly.  SilkTork  *Tea time 10:01, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

I wouldn't suggest making any changes until after the featured picture day has passed. But when it has, cropping and lightening the image to something like this, might be useful:  SilkTork  *Tea time 10:16, 9 July 2011 (UTC)




 * I note that the nominator and creator felt that the lighting and framing was poor: Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/File:Eastbourne Panorama, England - May 2009.jpg.  SilkTork  *Tea time 10:18, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
 * OK and thanks for the suggested cropping. Of course, we're into aesthetics here, but I personally prefer the line of grass at the bottom of the picture. Without the latter, the image looks a bit too stark and 'red-bricky'.  The view from the Downs is pleasing because of the way the town lies between the blue/green/grey of the sea and the green hillside. Mikeo1938 (talk) 11:46, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

University of Brighton – Women’s Football Team
I’m sure the above entry was submitted in good faith but it has been deleted because despite searching high and low I am quite unable to find a citation. The formatting of citations looks complicated but is easy if one uses the following link: http://toolserver.org/~magnus/makeref.php Hopefully the entry can be reinstated once a valid citation has been found.Mikeo1938 (talk) 09:02, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Religious Life
A lot of interesting material was added by J.A. Biddulph on 4 Dec 2011 but we really must have some in-line citations. The article still enjoys its GA rating but this was called into question earlier this year, one of the reasons being a lack of such citations. I've amended some of the text and will put a "citation needed" marker at the end of that section. Mikeo1938 (talk) 17:11, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Supposed tunnel from the Lamb Inn
The story of the tunnel is refuted in an article dated 1972 and entitled “Another Abortive Search for the Lamb Inn Tunnel” by Fred Bridger, which appeared in Issue 75 (January 1990) of Eastbourne Local History Society’s newsletter/journal.

Mr Bridger describes how, in 1969 and again in 1971, with the permission of the then landlords, Mr Francis and later Mr Quick, he and his brother excavated the brickwork in front of an entrance in the cellar. They were joined during the second excavation by a Mr Whittey, the architect of the Harvey brewery, who came to the conclusion that there was no tunnel.

In a footnote to the article, local archaeologist and historian, Lawrence Stevens, comments: “Mr Bridger proved yet again that there is no evidence for the existence of a secret passage between the Lamb Inn and the Old Parsonage. If passages did exist, they are most likely to have been sewage conduits. No one has ever claimed to have been in them and walked from building to building. Writing of these enigmatic tunnels, the renowned antiquarian, Mark Antony Lower, stated: "There is not the least ground for the tradition." This he wrote as early as 1858 in an article entitled, "Certain Inns and Inn Signs in Sussex" (Sussex Archaeological Collections, vol 10, pp181-182) which clearly predates most of the local references to the subject.” Mikeo1938 (talk) 15:38, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Small discrepancy
Page text says: "Evidence of Eastbourne's medieval past can seen in the fourteenth century Church of St Mary..." but the photo caption nearby says: "St Mary's Church (12th century), Old Town, Eastbourne"

Who's right? :) Dantheman123 (talk) 07:05, 16 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Tricky question! The church has three building phases, 12th 14th and 19th century, examples of each are still visible. I changed the page text to the earlier date as this gives us the earliest evidence of medieval. I removed the date from the picture as it is not apparent which era the section relates to. Periglio (talk) 17:23, 16 May 2013 (UTC)