Talk:Ebullism

Dicdef
This is just a definition of a phenomenon dealt with in the decompression sickness articles. It should be transwikified. JFW | T@lk  21:45, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
 * It is not. &middot; &middot; &middot; Peter Southwood (talk): 06:11, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

More info
This article has some more info. -- Steved424 17:46, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Pilots and astronauts consume excessive amounts of salt
The first citation does not support the claim that "pilots and astronauts consume excessive amounts of salt". The second citation merely reiterates the well-known fact that adding salt to water raises its boiling point slightly. It is WP:SYNTH to assume that consuming excessive amounts of salt will raise the boiling point of the blood. In any case, ebullism is caused by dissolved gasses coming out of solution as the pressure reduces, not by the blood boiling. I'm going to remove this paragraph unless a source can be found to support its assertions. --RexxS (talk) 16:53, 9 December 2009 (UTC)


 * The solubility of a gas in a liquid changes with pressure. Excess consumption of salt alters blood pressure.
 * Also that is why you use other inert breathing gases to eliminate or reduce dissolved gases in the blood.


 * —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.66.14.94 (talk) 08:18, 12 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes Henry's Law is well-known, as is the fact that some people experience raised blood pressure as a result of excessive salt intake. The Nitrox and Decompression sickness articles contain the information on increasing the fraction of oxygen to reduce dissolved gasses in the blood. We have articles on Trimix, Heliox, Hydrox, Argox and Hydreliox that will explain to you the use of other inert gases under pressure - none of them are used to "eliminate or reduce dissolved gases in the blood".
 * But where is the evidence that "pilots and astronauts consume excessive amounts of salt"? I'll take out that unsupported claim until a citation is found. --RexxS (talk) 10:57, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

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Serious confusion between decompression sickness and ebullism
The definitions, mechanism and prevention of these two conditions are not the same. Ebullism is caused by vaporisation of water at lower pressures, but more quickly and more easily reversible. decompression sickness by bubble formation of dissolved gas (nitrogen). Breathing oxygen can prevent DCS by flushing out nitrogen, but will have no effect on ebullism, so some of the content is basically irrelevant or wrong. I may fix if I get around to it. Murray et al 2013 should help if I can get the full article &middot; &middot; &middot; Peter Southwood (talk): 14:53, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Removed misinformation and irrelevant information from prevention section, added basic information with ref. &middot; &middot; &middot; Peter Southwood (talk): 06:13, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

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Polish version
I wanted to add a link to Polish version https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebulizm but got error that I'm unable to resolve or understand:
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