Talk:Echo Beach (TV series)

Unsourced and confusing statements
I've removed the following paragraph:


 * It was revealed that Echo Beach was originally going to be called "Polnarren", as "Moving Wallpaper" suggests, the soap was going to be shown every weekday at 4.00pm after "The Alan Titchmarsh Show", the original idea was aimed at an older audience and the student audience that made Neighbours popular. It is presumed "The Royal Today" took over "Polnarren's" original schedule spot.

It's not very clear, but the way I read it, this is implying that there were plans for a real soap opera called "Polnarren", and that the whole business about it being "sexed up" and renamed "Echo Beach" was something that really happened, not just a storyline in the spoof show "Moving Wallpaper". That claim certainly needs a source to back it up. 86.174.166.150 (talk) 22:37, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: moved. Jenks24 (talk) 13:13, 27 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Echo Beach (soap) → Echo Beach (TV series)

WP:NC says to use "TV series", regardless of the format/genre. Unreal7 (talk) 22:45, 20 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support: Echo Beach (TV series) is the accepted standard to disambiguate an episodic television show per WP:TV-NAME--Michaela den (talk) 09:36, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Was it a soap or not?
I recently made some edits to this article which removed references to the programme as being a soap. These edits were reverted by User:Stephenb who commented that it was a soap, albeit a very unusual one. I disagree with Stephenb. Echo Beach was a one-off twelve-week drama. Soap operas are ongoing shows, which are written while they are being produced. Echo Beach was written in advance and was always going to be a 12 episode show. Whilst in the world of Moving Wallpaper it may have been a soap, Moving Wallpaper itself was a fictional comedy drama. In the real world, Echo Beach was just a (slighly unusual) drama series. Bazonka (talk) 16:53, 14 October 2012 (UTC)


 * You could have watched Echo Beach without watching Moving Wallpaper, and it would have been watched as a soap opera, just as both the real makers and the fictional makers in MW had intended. Of course, had it been a success, Echo Beach would have been an on-going show, but "on-going" doesn't necessarily define "soap opera". Check out the references in the article, too, which all talk about it being a "unique soap" or just a soap. Stephenb (Talk) 08:11, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually the first reference in the article refers to it as a "unique soap concept" which isn't quite the same thing. You can look at Echo Beach in two ways - through the fictional world of Moving Wallpaper, or as a stand-alone programme. In the first case it is a soap, but only a fictional one, so that doesn't really count. In the second, real, case, it was just a drama. Yes, if the show had been recommissioned it may have become a soap, but this didn't happen and so it's not enough reason to classify it as a soap now. I have mentioned this discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Soap Operas and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject British TV/Shows to get the opinons of others. Bazonka (talk) 18:29, 15 October 2012 (UTC)


 * I recall it being touted as a soap outside the in-universe world of Moving Wallpaper. It was a soap opera that just happened to run for one series. It was presented as a soap opera when it was originally announced by ITV. I just had a quick look around and multiple news outlets called it a soap opera. Rain  the 1  21:38, 22 October 2012 (UTC)