Talk:Economics of coffee/Archives/2013

Neutrality work is needed
Fairtrade things tend to get pretty contentious. Some work is needed to ensure that the page doesn't get taken over or slanted either way on these issues. --69.54.206.222 (talk) 16:11, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Colombia is the leading distributor of coffee, this page needs more information —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.159.255.1 (talk) 23:59, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Information to be integrated
Earlier this week, I happened into a Starbuck's, & saw on the wall that they were protesting the lies about their misusing Ethiopian trademarks. First I had heard of this controversy -- or of an EVUHL ETHIOPIAN CONSPIRASY!!1L1one (Actually, my first thought was "So is this corporation is busy screwing over another group of defenseless farmers?)

Then I happened on the news release EIPO says progress made in protecting coffee names at the Walta Information Center website. Hmm. Here's some information that needs to be integrated into this article -- I just don't know the best way to do it. -- llywrch 03:17, 8 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Perhaps this could be worked into a larger re-write of the page. Then it might become more apparent where it fits.  It probably belongs in a discussion of the specialty coffee market and the larger issue of trademarking regional coffees (this case is by no means the first time the issue has come up).--Margareta 07:21, 8 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I don't know...some of this information sounds like it came from a Starbucks press release. There is such a confusion between "Free Trade" and "Fair Trade" that most don't realize that double the price that the conventional coffee market will bear isn't all that much.  Kulturvultur (talk) 07:41, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Line Removed, Put Here for Now
I haved removed this..."Fair trade provides the farmers higher yearly incomes, though, as the price does not move up and down with the market prices." It is not referenced and would need a reference to remain in the article. ny156uk 10:50, 31 December 2006 (UTC) --By providing a floor price for coffee FairTrade, small farm coffee growers are less vulnerable to the shaky coffee market. The oversupply of coffee would otherwise lead to a decrease in wages and thus in yearly income. (Bacon, Christopher et al, "Confronting the coffee crisis: Fair Trade, Sustainable Livelihoods and Ecosystems in Mexico and Central America." MIT 2008. pp43-48.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.47.184.123 (talk) 18:57, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

"Pictoric Pie Chart"
The pictoric pie chart, showing the distribution of the cost of a cup of coffee, while lovely, is also OR and unreferenced. I am therefore, reluctantly, deleting it for now. If this is a published work somewhere, I invite the author to put it back on the page with a reference to where it was published.--Margareta 19:09, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Need for improvement
This article could benefit from the addition of a lot more data. I am writing a term paper on global coffee production and trade. I will attempt to add some more tables and material, but there definitely needs to be an analysis of coffee and price levels at each step in production (ie growers, picked, processed, shipped, roasted). A discussion of the "big four" companies is also important. Collapse of ICA etc. Merging this document with "Coffee in the global economy" will be mildly beneficial because of that article's discussion on supply chains. --Mherlihy 07:50, 30 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Yay improvement! Thanks Mherlihy.  Regarding merging, I think merging the content of Coffee in the global economy into this one is the better idea.--Margareta 14:57, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Consumption statistics
These two stats seem to be contradictory: "Coffee consumption on average makes up about a third of tap water consumption in most of North America and Europe.[2] In the year 2000 in the US, coffee consumption was 22.1 gallons per capita.[3]" If both are true, per-capita tap water consumption in the US is only 66.3 gallons. This seems to be off by orders of magnitude; I probably consume this much water in a good shower. The first statistic is dubiously cited (it's based on a news story which doesn't give any reference) and I think should be removed. Graft | talk 21:24, 30 March 2008 (UTC)