Talk:Economy of Croatia

Untitled
Nuclear power 0%? This is wrong, Croatia and Slovenia have a joint ownership of the Krsko nuclear power plant, 50% of it's power output belongs to the Croatian national power supplier.

How much is that, if you can clarify bit on this, would be great, thanx. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.110.78.164 (talk) 19:14, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

About 360 megawatts I think Mic of orion (talk) 03:04, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Also, "It is one of the largest economies in Southeast Europe by nominal gross domestic product (GDP).[28][29]" Only a nationalist would write something like that. It is embarrassing and beyond silly. Would change it, but requires massive edit and I am not prepared to spend hour doing that. Sorry, hate glorification of any sorts, being humble is admirable quality, nations should strive to be humble.

How is Croatias debt "high but manageble"
Im curious about this considering that the friends I have in Croatia speak of unmanageble times with wages not being payed, mass layoffs and obviously there is a negative economy. At the same time the Yugoslav debt of 17 billion equalling only 10% of the GDP (as compared to Croatias 58% or a debt of about 30 billion) was partly the reason for the civil war and breakup of civil society. This in a time when the economy was in positive growth (1%) compared to Croatias negative growth (1.2%) 94.234.170.198 (talk) 10:43, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

Past Tense
You do realize that you have to say things in a past tense perspective in English when referring to them from a vantage point in the past.--J intela (talk) 23:17, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Bot report : Found duplicate references !
In of Croatia&redirect=no&oldid=227351959 the last revision I edited, I found duplicate named references, i.e. references sharing the same name, but not having the same content. Please check them, as I am not able to fix them automatically :) DumZiBoT (talk) 14:17, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * "Eurostat" :
 * Per capita GDP
 * Croatian economy

Data for the 1990
Data for the 1990 and the following conclusion about GDP growth of 300 % is totaly incorrect and transferred from the vastly incorrect article on the Eastern Europe economies during socialist period. In 2003 Croatian GDP was equal to that from 1990 so the growth of 300 % is not possible. That would imply growth rate of 6.5 % per year which, I think, was achieved only once during 20 years (not to mention two periods with high recession). In order to improve this article, article Economy of the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia and article Eastern Bloc economies, I urge someone with the good knowledge of Serbocroatian and economy to consult this well-cited sources: 193.198.162.13 (talk) 13:18, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
 * http://www.efst.hr/nastava/materijali/16806_1._PREGLED_GOSPODARSKOG_RAZVOJA_ZADNJIH_100_GODINA.pdf
 * http://www.scribd.com/doc/51382032/3/D-HRVATSKI-GOSPODARSKI-RAZVOJ
 * http://web.efzg.hr/dok//MGR/Bogdan//Razvoj_Hrvatske_tijekom_20og%20stoljea-prezentacija.pdf

Data for 1990 table are not good..eg. Croatia and Vojvodina at that time had prety much similar GDP. I propose that this table should be deleted from article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.137.151.80 (talk) 22:10, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Trade information
Much of the information in the statistics is completely wrong according to the source used. The article states Croatian exports amount to $109 billion, CIA world factbook states $12 billion. The article also states imports of $89 billion, CIA world factbook $20 billion. The overall GDP number is off by a factor of 10. CIA world factbook is cited as the source for information. 89.143.164.142 (talk) 12:18, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

Outdated mostly from 2012.
A lot of the economical numbers such a GDP, ease of doing business rank, exports and etc are quite outdated and need to be updated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.205.100.106 (talk) 23:43, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

History
First Tozwu. Try to shorten the edits you have made in the history section. You have added to much unnecesary information and in many places you repeat yourself. I did not revert it because I can see that you have put much work on this and that is great, but after all this is a encyclopedia. Do that until Sunday, ok? Or should I do that maybe? Tnx.

It was an unrecognized stated, even the modern day Croatia does not recognize its existence. It was not a independent state at all, it was a puppet state of Nazi Germany. http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005449 https://books.google.hr/books?id=pVCx3jerQmYC&pg=PA113&lpg=PA113&dq=the+so+called+independent+state+of+croatia&source=bl&ots=fQ8URWvWjX&sig=AGejWwaeB-IZVmGmdtK5NRTtkn8&hl=hr&sa=X&ei=lf1BVZTzL-SR7Ab81oHgDw&ved=0CFoQ6AEwCw#v=onepage&q=the%20so%20called%20independent%20state%20of%20croatia&f=false --Tuvixer (talk) 10:11, 30 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Look at the other articles about countries' economies (like Economy of Hungary or Economy of Lithuania). It doesn't have to be shortened, but further expanded, at least the post 2000 part. We also need a "sectors" section and, of course, some shaping to the current text as some parts were weirdly written. The article is far from done. As for NDH, "Independent State of Croatia" was its official name. 97% of sources don't call it "so-called". Modern Croatia denies that it is a successor of NDH, not that NDH didn't exist. It doesn't matter whether it was in practice really independent or not. We also don't call RSK "so-called" on articles related to it, although that prefix is also extensively used in Croatia. After all, it's already stated that NDH was a puppet state of Italy and Germany. Tzowu (talk) 11:04, 1 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Look at the articles about countries economies (like Economy of Slovenia or Economy of Sweden). Also look at the Economy of Germany, maybe that is the best way to go. It has to be shortened. The question is will you do that or will someone else, it is up to you, ok? And I am talking about the history section.
 * Exactly! Like the so-called Republic of Serbian Krajina. Both are not recognized by modern day Croatia. --Tuvixer (talk) 11:26, 1 May 2015 (UTC)


 * So if you want it shortened why are you reverting my edit which rephrased some sentences and removed outdated info? Economy of Slovenia is badly written. Germany has a way bigger pre-1990 section that we do now. Republic of Serbian Krajina is nowhere on Wikipedia called "so-called".


 * Lead section definitely needs shortening, probably no one has so much info in the lead. Tzowu (talk) 11:48, 1 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Please stop reverting and discuss it here, ok? You do not have the consensus. If you are going to shorten the article don't do it edit by edit, but in a one edit, ok? --Tuvixer (talk) 12:43, 1 May 2015 (UTC)


 * I'm not reverting and I am discussing and also removing irrelevant material, like BICRO and banking laws of 1998 (which wasn't even added by me in the first place, I just tried to blend it in the rest of the text). You are the one who is reverting everything and is against everything I do. No, I won't do it in one edit. I'll sometimes do it in several edits, and sometimes in one huge edit. Tzowu (talk) 12:59, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

You can propose here the removals and we can discuss it, ok? --Tuvixer (talk) 13:01, 1 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Didn't you say a few hours ago that I should shorten the article? If you have some problems with what I edited then point it out or revert just that part of the edit, not all of the edits. Tzowu (talk) 13:08, 1 May 2015 (UTC)


 * No I have said that we have to agree on the changes. You have ignored that and have started a edit-war. That is really not how Wikipedia works. You have to have a consensus on making the changes. Why are you ignoring the talk page? When we have a discussion you do not edit the article but wait until we resolve the issue. You did not do that. --Tuvixer (talk) 13:20, 1 May 2015 (UTC)


 * No, you didn't say that. You just wanted to disrupt my editing. You have no idea why are you reverting everything I do, you can't explain it, you don't want to discuss it... Just read your comments from the beginning of this. Tzowu (talk) 13:38, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

I have reverted it because you do not have the consensus. That is how Wikipedia works, and you have ignored the discussion and reverted what I have reverted. That is a edit-war, and you started it. --Tuvixer (talk) 14:28, 1 May 2015 (UTC)


 * No, you reverted it because you wanted to report me. First you asked me to shorten the article, then you reverted what I shortened, rephrased and moved to other sections, and then you say that it was me who ignored a discussion whilst there is still no explanation from you on what is actually contentious in the edits. Anyway, both versions were done by me and there is in fact not much difference between them, so it just shows your real intensions in this. Tzowu (talk) 14:43, 1 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Don't lie. I have asked you if you are going to do that or someone else, and you ignored that. I have asked you to present the changes here on the talk page and you ignored that.--Tuvixer (talk) 15:40, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Well if I started editing it then obviously my intention was to do that, shorten some parts of the text, rephrase repeating sentences and remove unnecessary numbers. If you have a problem with that then say what bothers you. Tzowu (talk) 17:10, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
 * You could have said that and then before you make the changes present them here. You know, you have the Sandbox. You are mean and not constructive. You see that here is a somewhat dispute and you ignore the talk page and you edit the page while the discussion is not over. That is not how Wikipedia works so you have to stop that and present your changes here. If you get the consensus you can place them in the article but until then no changes can be made, ok?--Tuvixer (talk) 17:37, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Here we go again. OK, let's try it this way. Is there anything in the current version that you oppose or can I continue with editing, like adding a few sentences in the 2000's and 2009-present section and adding more subsections on "sectors"? Tzowu (talk) 17:51, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Economic Indicators and Central Budget
Try to find data to fix central budget and economic indicators beacose its outdated (2007 data) !!! And for newest data for nominal gdp, it's impossible that it is 48 bill.. how can gdp shrink by 10 bill in one year ?!? Leave it on 58 and thats it... Im gonna send email today to DZS, im gonna try to update every data i can. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.142.144.214 (talk) 10:19, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
 * The IMF made a mistake and instead of a nominal GDP of 58.874 they wrote 48.874 billion $, which is impossible. I wanted to send them an email here , but it gave me an error when I tried to complete it. Tzowu (talk) 23:23, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

I completed some kind of survey, we'll wait, im about to recieve information from National Buareu of Statistics today or tomorrow and im going to refresh all data on Economy of Croatia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RepublicOfCroatiaContributionOnWiki (talk • contribs) 11:29, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

External link to tariff data
Hello everyone, I am working for the International Trade Centre (ITC), a UN/WTO agency that aims to promote sustainable economic development through trade promotion. I would like to propose the addition of an external link (http://www.macmap.org/QuickSearch/FindTariff/FindTariff.aspx?subsite=open_access&country=191&source=1|ITC) that leads directly to our online database of customs tariffs applied by Croatia. Visitors can easily look up market access information for Croatia by selecting the product and partner of their interest. I would like you to consider this link under the WP:ELYES #3 prescriptions. Moreover, the reliability and the pertinence of this link can be supported by the following facts 1) ITC is part of the United Nations, and aims to share trade and market access data on by country and product as a global public good 2) No registration is required to access this information 3) Market access data (Tariffs and non-tariff measures) are regularly updated

Thank you, Divoc (talk) 08:58, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

External links modified
Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 2 one external links on Economy of Croatia. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
 * Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20110721100545/http://www.hrvatske-ceste.hr/WEB%20-%20Legislativa/brojenje-prometa/CroDig2009.pdf to http://www.hrvatske-ceste.hr/WEB%20-%20Legislativa/brojenje-prometa/CroDig2009.pdf
 * Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20060824185818/http://www.hnb.hr:80/eindex.htm to http://www.hnb.hr/eindex.htm

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true or failed to let others know (documentation at ).

Cheers.— InternetArchiveBot  (Report bug) 18:53, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

External links modified
Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 10 external links on Economy of Croatia. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
 * Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20070928071307/http://www.hnb.hr/statistika/e-ekonomski_indikatori.htm?tsfsg=15127d5832d6ac210a43438afd2fc966 to http://www.hnb.hr/statistika/e-ekonomski_indikatori.htm?tsfsg=15127d5832d6ac210a43438afd2fc966
 * Corrected formatting/usage for http://www.vjesnik.hr/Article.aspx?ID=D37B6CB1-C728-44FE-94C7-8C80B4EA582F
 * Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20130910050655/http://www.unwto.org/facts/eng/pdf/barometer/UNWTO_Barom07_3_en.pdf to http://www.unwto.org/facts/eng/pdf/barometer/UNWTO_Barom07_3_en.pdf
 * Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20110430010646/http://www.eurotestmobility.com/news.php?item=25&PHPSESSID=a7d9b4decd981bb3cdc3494656b0104d to http://www.eurotestmobility.com/news.php?item=25&PHPSESSID=a7d9b4decd981bb3cdc3494656b0104d
 * Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20090115220041/http://www.javno.com/en/croatia/clanak.php?id=38990 to http://www.javno.com/en/croatia/clanak.php?id=38990
 * Corrected formatting/usage for http://www.vjesnik.hr/Article.aspx?ID=B93764C8-6505-4A87-BDDF-B22148331E6E
 * Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20110715203314/http://www.agencija-zolpp.hr/Brodskelinije/tabid/1267/Default.aspx to http://www.agencija-zolpp.hr/Brodskelinije/tabid/1267/Default.aspx
 * Corrected formatting/usage for http://www.hnb.hr/eindex.htm
 * Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20060827211400/http://www2.hgk.hr/en/ to http://www2.hgk.hr/en/
 * Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20090711153813/http://epp.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/cache/ITY_PUBLIC/2-25062009-BP/EN/2-25062009-BP-EN.PDF to http://epp.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/cache/ITY_PUBLIC/2-25062009-BP/EN/2-25062009-BP-EN.PDF

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

Cheers.— InternetArchiveBot  (Report bug) 21:00, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

External links modified
Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified one external link on Economy of Croatia. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
 * Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20111202124844/http://www.blueflag.org/Menu/Awarded+sites/2011/Northern+Hemisphere/Croatia to http://www.blueflag.org/Menu/Awarded+sites/2011/Northern+Hemisphere/Croatia

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

Cheers.— InternetArchiveBot  (Report bug) 22:16, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

NOMINAL GDP
I think that you made a mistake with Croatian nominal GDP ,in some sources like tradingeconomics.com says that nominal GDP is 54.85 bilion, which is more logical because it was 49 bilion in 2017. on this page stands 64 bilion. Could you please check the data ? Croatian national bank updates on statistics https://www.hnb.hr/en/statistics/main-macroeconomic-indicators - IMF updates these as well when the're doing their assessments which are normally done in May/July each year. Croatia no longer uses Kuna as its national currency, but you can use exchange of 7.535 Kuna to 1€ if you wish data in Kuna. In 2017, Croatia's economy was €49.516 bn, or in $63.85bn. Preliminary data for 2022, indicates Croata's GDP of 527 billion kuna or €69.94 bn, or $73.6bn. Use IMF or Croatian National Bank for up to date Croatian economic data.

A Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion
The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion: Participate in the deletion discussion at the. —Community Tech bot (talk) 01:50, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Unemployment in Croatia 1996. - 2019.png

At-risk-of-poverty rate
I tried to adjust people living bellow poverty line, which in Croatia is 11%, 3.5+7.5% = 11 = https://podaci.dzs.hr/2022/en/29177 - official data set, at risk of poverty threshold rate is 19.2%, well was 19.2% but minimum pay including state pension are increasing to €700 so the rate will dramatically fall as a result, but still significant %g of population will fall under risk of poverty threshold, i.e 7.8% of the country's population, data set is good indicator of well being. I adjusted poverty rate which is 11%, but if someone wants to adjust At-risk-of-poverty rate indicators be my guest when next data set is released in 2024. thank you. 84.71.154.48 (talk) 00:31, 26 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Please do not update data you can't verify with sources. Also if you are planning to do more edits it would be good to register yourself. Opatijac97 (talk) 11:11, 26 January 2023 (UTC)