Talk:Economy of Finland

Major POV
This article appears extremely POV, in that it ignores the very significant role of the state (e.g., regulation and public expenditures) in building Finland's strong economy. It ignores the fact that Finland's highly-educated population and low-crime rate were and are supported by very high taxes and rates of expenditure (as compared.,e.g., with the U.S.) If you were to rely on this article alone, you would think that Finland's economy grew as a result of the government's simply getting out of the way - nonsense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.40.1.129 (talk) 22:07, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
 * The US are an anomality. Looking at List of countries by tax revenue as percentage of GDP the Finnish taxation is in line with the taxation in other European countries. Lumialover2 (talk) 08:37, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

The homicide rate of Finland is very high compared to the other western Europe. So is it with other crimes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

Finland's economy is not strong. The GDP growth of Finland was -8.5 % in 2009, -0.8 % in 2012 and about -1.0 % in 2013. Public debt of Finland is increasing very strongly. http://www.stat.fi/til/vtp/2012/vtp_2012_2013-07-11_tau_001_en.html http://www.taloussanomat.fi/porssi/talouden-tunnusluvut/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.157.177.25 (talk) 08:28, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

GDP Update
Updating some GDP growth figures (according to the IMF ) and inserting a table to show growth:

http://www.stat.fi/til/vtp/2012/vtp_2012_2013-07-11_tau_001_en.html Link for verification --JDnCoke 18:08, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

Comments
The article says: "Unemployment continues to be a problem for Finland even if rapid growth of the production after the recession and active employment policies have reduced unemployment to 8,8 % of labor force in 2004. According to Bank of Finland's statistics, the estimated total rate of unemployment including hidden unemployment accounted to 18% in the fall of 2003."

Perhaps it could be noted that 8,8% - not 18% - is the official figure measured following the accepted EU standards.

"Timber and metalworking are Finland's main industries"

What about telecommunications and electronics?

Taking into account that agriculture is about 4% of the GDP it clearly receives a bit too much attention.

"Although free education through the university level also is available, only about one child in four receives a higher education in the highly competitive system." and on the other hand: ". About 60% select the academic line." Is there a discrepancy?

"The good infrastructure in Finland has enhanced Finland's position as a gateway to Russia."

The road to St. Petersburg hardly represents good infrasturcture. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.74.196.17 (talk) 19:04, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Anyway, Finland is now the most ICT specialized (or knowledge based) economy in the world. That's certainly one of the most important things about Finland's economy.

http://info.worldbank.org/etools/docs/library/201645/Finland_ES.pdf — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tomi Ahti (talk • contribs) 18:28, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

There is no phone mill in Finland any more. Finland exports almost no phones any more. Microsoft acquire Nokia phones in 2013. http://www.engadget.com/2013/12/04/microsofts-nokia-acquisition-now-a-done-deal-with-final-eu-appr/.

The export of electronics has strongly diminished during last couples of years.

Metalworking in Finland is also badly diminishing because of heavy outsourcing to Eastern Europe specially to Poland and Estonia. The industry has lost 90,000 workplaces in the last ten years. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.157.177.25 (talk) 08:43, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

What is university education?

 * Although free education through the university level also is available, only about one child in four receives a higher education in the highly competitive system.

Isn't it so in the Anglo-Saxon countries that "career colleges", that is, the same as Finnish second-level vocational schools, are considered "universities"? The statement above is highly misleading. Currently, there are too many academically educated people, but too few vocationally educated, compared to market demand. --Vuo 15:26, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Better article in Finnish
There is a better article on the Finnish Wikipedia. I would suggest a complete translation from that article rather than editing this version. The English article suffers from several, difficult-to-correct problems with emphasis, style, and accuracy. My first impression is that it's very similar to the CIA World Factbook entry. Missing from the article are things like: All of this should be in both Finnish and English articles. --Vuo 16:00, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Finland is one of the most knowledge-based economies in the world, it's not just manufacturing, but technology.
 * The chemical industry is the third largest industry
 * Taxation facts and government spending
 * Unemployment

"Largely Free Market"?
Looking at the statistics from OECD, I am not sure how well that qualifies? http://stats.oecd.org/wbos/viewhtml.aspx?queryname=313&querytype=view&lang=en -- Acksyning 16:46, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

The looney faction could keep their hands off
AKA the market fundamentalists. And not only here. Socialist fundamentalist could also keep their hands off here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.27.67.160 (talk) 19:08, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Bot report : Found duplicate references !
In the last revision I edited, I found duplicate named references, i.e. references sharing the same name, but not having the same content. Please check them, as I am not able to fix them automatically :) DumZiBoT (talk) 16:51, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * "oecd2004" :
 * Finland Economy 2004, OECD
 * Economic Survey of Finland in 2004, OECD

Vandalism - can't figure out how to fix it
The sidebar on the rights contains the sentence "Micah's a fag!!!!!!!!!!!". I couldn't figure out how to delete it. Hopefully somebody more skilled in the ways of Wikipedia will see this and remove it.

83.145.240.248 (talk) 10:17, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Finnish industry
The son of a friend of mine was doing a geography project on Finnish industry and commented this was not mentioned on this page so I have added his researches and references to this page on his behalf. I am no expert on the subject so maybe someone else will take up the baton and run Mjchesnel (talk) 10:51, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

i updated the imports and exports
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/fi.html i used the cia data--Noelmantra (talk) 16:00, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

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External link to tariff data
Hello everyone, I am working for the International Trade Centre (ITC), a UN/WTO agency that aims to promote sustainable economic development through trade promotion. I would like to propose the addition of an external link (http://www.macmap.org/QuickSearch/FindTariff/FindTariff.aspx?subsite=open_access&country=246&source=1|ITC) that leads directly to our online database of customs tariffs applied by Finland. Visitors can easily look up market access information for Finland by selecting the product and partner of their interest. I would like you to consider this link under the WP:ELYES #3 prescriptions. Moreover, the reliability and the pertinence of this link can be supported by the following facts 1) ITC is part of the United Nations, and aims to share trade and market access data on by country and product as a global public good 2) No registration is required to access this information 3) Market access data (Tariffs and non-tariff measures) are regularly updated

Thank you, Divoc (talk) 09:06, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

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