Talk:Economy of Romania

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NOTE: The IMF has just revised its growth forecast for 2008 to 8.4%, since April when the previous figure of 5.4% was reported. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.4.203.20 (talk) 02:04, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

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It feels like I'm reading an advertisement for Romania more than an analysis. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.233.233.166 (talk) 17:57, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

I have totally the same feeling...It annoys me —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.130.17.219 (talk) 00:53, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Anybody has any sugestions?
How to stop the series of vandalizations of this article (especially in the first infobox) by individuals who keep increasing "the numbers" without giving any reference? The article risks becoming a joke if this numbers continue to be bumped up. Nergaal (talk) 19:13, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I added this one "The average monthly salary in Romania is around €500" and I've taken this info from as one can see I added the ref. As the rest, much of it is referenced in comparison with other articles. --NotRem (talk) 19:28, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

"Romania is the regional economic power, well ahead in terms of GDP as its neighbouring countries." Romania's neighbor Ukraine has almost twice bigger GDP. Tiger is short but is very proud by his size :)
 * It's not a tiger who is proud, it's a nut, but I didn't have time to decrapify this article from his influence. -- AdrianTM (talk) 04:30, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

At least in 2006 GDP of Romania was bigger than its neighbours. See the list.
 * place 45, Romania 121,609 (millions of US dollars)
 * place 49, Hungary 112,899
 * place 51, Ukraine 106,111

Actually you can find this also in the article List of countries by GDP (nominal). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.113.151.26 (talk) 14:55, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

There are also interesting the future estimations of GDP for Romania. In all of them Romania has bigger GDP than Ukraine, Hungary, not to mention Moldova or Bulgaria. LearnratesX (talk) 19:40, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

See this interesting article List of countries by future GDP estimates (nominal) LearnratesX (talk) 19:42, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

It's funny to read that "Romania is the largest, high-income EU member economy of Central-Eastern Europe", when based on it's GDP per capita it's just recently gotten into upper-middle income class.Creionul (talk) 09:03, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Something else, please review all the "Agriculture" article as most of the statements are not true. The county of Romania has the potential but not yet the technology. And I am sure much more than 5% of country population works within this sector.Creionul (talk) 20:47, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Please also review the statement that Romania is the second wine export in Europe. Unfortunately it is not! You might wanna check the 2007 list of wine-producing countries in the world. You will see that world wide Romania is only on the 12th position and other european counties are ahead Romania. Please try to be more correct for the next time.Creionul (talk) 21:17, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Yep, somebody shall correct these ridiculous claims. I.e. Poland has about twice as big GDP PPP according to its wiki entry, Czechs and Hungarians have comparable GDP while almost half of population of Romania. Moreover, Romania doesn't rank among high-income countries in the reference provided, so I'm removing this claim.138.38.221.134 (talk) 10:14, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

This article on the economy of Romania is nothing more than a load of cr*p. The tone is abnormally boastful and most of the information is totally inaccurate. I can understand the people who wrote this may want Romania to look good in the eyes of readers but I am afraid this is not best achieved through sheer lies. I have a good knowledge of the Romanian economy and I know there are some true and very positive things out there that should be mentioned instead of blatant lies. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ovimunt (talk • contribs) 14:54, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * +1. Enegrea (talk) 10:54, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Current economic crisis
Someone with a bit more knowledge then me should write something about the current economic crisis. I think it's pretty important and there's nothing in here at all. Looking here you'd think we're the richest country in the EU, it's pretty surreal... --Helixdq (talk) 15:59, 24 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I don't think the situation is bad enough to say that Romania is in an economic crisis, until we see some actual long term effect at least. --C.matei (talk) 16:47, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Romania`s economic growth prognosis for 2009 is -4%, but here it says +7% please change that.


 * I agree, in fact the finance minister predicts an 8% contraction. This is clearly painting totally the wrong picture. The same can be said as to the rest of the article. Source: http://web.worldbank.org/WBSITE/EXTERNAL/NEWS/0,,date:2009-07-31~menuPK:34461~pagePK:34392~piPK:64256810~theSitePK:4607,00.html

Before World War II
Before World War II Romania was supposed to have had the third-largest economy on the continent, after Germany and France; a prosperous peasant society, exporting huge amounts of wheat and oil.

I've removed this sentence from that section since it had nothing to do with reality. Having a mainly peasant society and exports comprised mostly of agricultural products and basic resources like oil (which at the time had nowhere near the value it has today) is definetly NOT a good thing for a country's economy, btw.
 * Romania processed 95% of its own oil, and it was not basic resources, it was petrochemical products that were exported.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.167.84.84 (talk) 03:44, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

According to these figures by A. Maddison, Romania's GDP was about the 15th on the continent before World War II and GDP per capita was the lowest. And according to the same figures, GDP only increased by 15% in 12 years before WWII, so I have doubts about the second part of that section too (if industrial production doubled from nothing, it doesn't mean a whole lot).

I might try to add something to this section in the following days if I have time. If someone else is willing to contribute, that would be great. C.matei (talk) 16:41, 20 February 2008 (UTC)


 * We've had socks of banned persons who kept adding this kind of things, thanks for keeping an eye on this. -- AdrianTM (talk) 16:53, 22 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Looking at the trend, I am pretty sure that the author ignores the territories that were lost after 1945. Nergaal (talk) 00:08, 23 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm not certain, but I think the author calculated GDP throughout history in the geographical area that is today's Romania. This would also explain why pre-WWI GDP was higher than post-WWI GDP.--C.matei (talk) 11:28, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

A lot of errors on the page. Agriculture is not!!!developed in Romania such as described. 62.143.120.66 (talk) 23:44, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

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National Prognosis Romania
Someone who keeps taking off Romania's economic prognosis in 2020 at EUR GPD PPP 36,300 please do not take this off, leave it on. The statement was backed up by the appropriate evidence meaning it had a citation. The information regarding Doing Business should be removed since it is already mentioned on the front page.Pryde 01 (talk) 01:59, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Updates
In the last couple of days i tried to mend this article as much as i could because some figures were just ridiculous. I made many corrections, and for each correction i put a reliable source. I hope you all agree that this article must reflect the true face of the Romanian economy and that these vandalisms should be some how stopped. Mario 1987  09:41, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Median Wage
Whats the Median Wage of this country (PPP)?--J intela (talk) 01:05, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

you told us the Average.

Average Wage
The growing middle class section mentions average wage, but per week? per month? per year? I'm guessing its per month, but who knows? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 164.97.245.84 (talk) 00:42, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

Energy section
editsemiprotected I found it very weird to read about the percentages mentioned in the energy section. I consider the most reliable source as being the data from Electrica, the electricity company. Accordingly, the percentages are the following: Coal - 41,69% Nuclear - 13,1% Gas - 17,42% Hydro - 25,8%

the link for the complete pdf. file is http://www.electrica.ro/files/eticheta%202007.pdf (Rava sd (talk) 15:52, 20 October 2008 (UTC))
 * Yes check.svg Done--Aervanath lives in the Orphanage 19:14, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

labour force by sector?
8.6% + 36.7% + 37.7% <100% why?

Aranjaments
I rearranged and reclassified the chapters, because there was big confusion between concepts and ideas. User:Damian Radu —Preceding undated comment added 18:08, 27 March 2009 (UTC).

"suffered more than most of its neighbors"
This edit took that out, but the statement comes from the Wall Street Journal source cited. I'm willing to WP:AGF that WSJ is wrong here, but I'd like to see some sources giving numbers that contradict it. Pcap ping  14:14, 19 January 2010 (UTC)


 * In 1938, per-capita national income reached $94, surpassing other present-day developed European countries such as Greece ($76) or Portugal ($81). However, the Romanian economy still lagged behind its Western European counterparts.

The reference is not a Reliable Source and [it's contradicted by this data](http://www.ggdc.net/maddison/Historical_Statistics/horizontal-file_02-2010.xls)

1938 GDP/capita, values PPP in international 1990 dollars:

bogdan (talk) 19:55, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Greece: $2,677
 * Portugal: $1,747
 * Romania: $1,242

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Too positive
I am not sure if this is really the truth? It seems too optimistic and positive. Llucadesigns (talk) 07:34, 4 May 2023 (UTC)


 * bit racist 62.56.102.127 (talk) 22:57, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

GDP Data
This user(@2003:e8:6f11:2c60:359e:a8da:5fc6:228c @2003:e8:6f11:2ce1:c484:36cd:f262:8af2 @2003:e8:6f11:2ce1:30e6:2669:9175:8173), which i suspect he's the same person keeps messing with the gdp figures without providing a source. Mascarpone1337 (talk) 12:47, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

GDP of Romania
Someone provides numbers higher than the real numbers of the source used. Someone has put values such as 402bn GDP nominal, 24.000 per capita and 810bn GDP PPP with 48.000 per capita, while based on the April 2023 IMF report, used as the source, the nominal GDP of Romania for 2024 is projected to reach 376bn, while per capita the value is to stand at the level of 20.175. In terms of GDP PPP, it is estimated to reach 830bn with per capita being 44.000. Those are the numbers accessible in the database of the April 2023 IMF report. As for today, we also have access to the newer report from October 2023, where the data also does not correspond with the numbers provided by someone Coartcord (talk) 09:05, 5 March 2024 (UTC)