Talk:Economy of Serbia/Archive 1

Adjustment to the GDP per capita
I've made the adjustments to the GDP per capita, because the data on the population of Serbia per new census from 2011 is not the one that the IMF has (in other words, IMF has outdated data). IMF thinks we have 7.5M people, while in fact we have 7.1M. The irony.

Kosovo
Just a little mathematics. Serbia has got (without Kosovo) 7,500,000 people, which means, counting in US dollars from 2005, that the real GDP per capita is over 4500. It is still very low, but not 3180, as stated as projection for 2005, on this page.

Marko

This article should specify which figures include Kosovo, and which do not. Grunners 18:30, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

I think it would be nice if there is a narrative section about the makeup of the Serbian economy (main industries, recent economic developments, etc.).

GDP (PPP)
The purchasing power parities (PPP) value of the GDP using the Geary-Khamis dollars instead of USD. For further explanation, please read The Geary-Khamis dollar article.

-''The Geary-Khamis dollar, also known as the international dollar, is a hypothetical unit of currency that has the same purchasing power that the U.S. dollar had in the United States at a given point in time. It is based on the twin concepts of purchasing power parities (PPP) of currencies and the international average prices of commodities. It shows how much a local currency unit is worth within the country's borders. For example, comparing per capita gross domestic product (GDP) of various countries in international dollars, rather than based simply on exchange rates, provides a more valid measure to compare standards of living. It was proposed by Roy C. Geary in 1958 and developed by Salem Hanna Khamis in 1970 to 1972.'' Gaston28 (talk) 22:21, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Average salary in Serbia
In Serbia gross salary is only the basis for calculating net salary (net pay), contributions (retirement, medicare...) and tax.

Gross salary is: --- Net salary = 70.1% of Gross salary (the amount of money which someone actually takes home after all of the deductions) - In addition, the employer must pay 17.9% for contributions (retirement, medicare...). This means that each month the employer pays additional 17.9% of gross salary for contributions, which gives a Total cost for the employer (excluding paid vacation...). -
 * subtracted for retirement, medicare and unemployment compulsory insurance - 17,9% (worker's part)
 * subtracted for tax - 12%
 * Gross salary = the basis for calculating
 * Net salary = 70.1% of Gross salary
 * Total cost for the employer = Gross salary + 17.9% of Gross salary... each month excluding paid vacation...

In practice, the average national net salary is slightly higher than those 70.1% of gross salary. That's because there are exemption from payment of contributions by Article 45 45a and 45b of the Serbian Law on Contributions for Social Security. For example, the average March 2010 net salary was 72.1% of gross salary. Representatives of Serbian government have been announced several times in the media that they have intentions to bring some changes in this system. There were talks about reduction of taxes for lower salaries, the increase of taxes for higher salaries, then the expansion of exemption from payment of contributions et cetera. There is no broad consensus on this issue in political and economic circles. Gaston28 (talk) 10:03, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

There is no way that awerage net salary is 463$ ,dolar is 83 dinars and awarage salary is 34500 dinars which make it 415$. There is a lot of other false stuff,looks like this page was wrote someone from goverment.Let say just one like 2010 GDP estimeted which someone wrote 6029$ which is for laugh ,with todays dolar,euro, dinar exchange GDP is now less then 5000$. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.87.134.25 (talk) 00:40, 9 June 2010 (UTC)


 * There is inflation and dinar lost value. So would be good to know on what day was awarage salary so much. --Alexmilt (talk) 14:57, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

This article needs NPOV, all sources are state institution, for purpose of propaganda. Just an example: paying of taxes on gross salary does not mean that net salary is paid-up. It is not something surprising that someone did not get net salary for 3, 6, or even 20 months. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.69.2.253 (talk) 12:11, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

-- The Serbian average salaries data is published by the Statistical Office of the Republic of Serbia periodically, and this data are expressed exclusively in Serbian dinars (RSD). Prior to publication on the English language Wikipedia all data are converted into U.S. dollars.

The average Serbian salary in April 2010 expressed in Serbian dinars (RSD) by the Statistical Office of the Republic of Serbia was converted into U.S. dollars (USD) based on 04/30/2010 Interbank exchange rate. The average Serbian salary in May 2010 was converted into U.S. dollars (USD) based on 05/31/2010 Interbank exchange rate...

April 2010 []


 * Average gross salary was = 48525 RSD


 * Average net salary was = 34952 RSD


 * Interbank rate exchange rate USD/RSD on 04/30/2010 was = 75.42

So in USD average (April 2010) salaries in Serbia was:


 * Average gross salary      $643.39 (April 2010)


 * Average net salary          $463.43 (April 2010)

May 2010 []


 * Average gross salary was = 46454 RSD


 * Average net salary was = 33463 RSD


 * Interbank rate exchange rate USD/RSD on 05/31/2010 was = 83.99

So in USD average (May 2010) salaries in Serbia was:


 * Average gross salary      $553.08 (May 2010)


 * Average net salary          $398.41 (May 2010)

Gaston28 (talk) 05:24, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Credit rating by Dun & Bradstreet
Would it be suitable to included this along with the S&P rating? B92 - News - Serbia maintains rating, recovery slower —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eug.galeotti (talk • contribs) 16:14, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't see why not, go for it. Buttons (talk) 00:25, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Cheers! I've made the edit. Eug.galeotti (talk) 01:18, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Additional Content
Hi. There are a few areas of the article that would benefit from additional content.In the interests of transparency I am declaring that the Government of Serbia is my client. I will post on the COI noticeboard.

Energy in Serbia
If someone could review the sentence below please, which I'd suggest is included at the end of the Renewable Energy point under the Energy in Serbia section.
 * In June 2013 the Serbian government announced an action plan to meet 27 per cent of gross final energy consumption from renewable sources by 2020. ✅

Foreign Direct Investment
The following point about the recent Abu Dhabi loan agreement could be added under the Foreign Direct Investment (FDI) section:
 * In March 2014 the Abu Dhabi's Department of Finance (DoF) signed a loan agreement with the Government of Serbia which totalled $1 billion.

External Trade

 * The value of bilateral trade between Serbia and Germany reached a total of €2.78 billion in 2003, a historical record for the two nations. ✅

Agriculture
✅
 * Agriculture accounts for 10% of Serbia's GDP and almost one forth of the country's total exports, with around 20% of the population working in the industry.

If you have any questions then please contact me on my Talk Page. Thanks Vivj2012 (talk) 14:32, 14 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Comment - I reviewed proposed additional content. It is completely uncontroversial and supported with reliable sources. Actually the proposed assertions are sky is blue assertions so I doubt anybody will have anything against their addition. I will add them to the article shortly. Thanks for your contribution Vivj2012.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 15:21, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I am sorry for not noticing this before. I am uncertain if loan agreement goes under FDI section. Loan is not investment. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 19:04, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

error in external trade
The statistic for external trade in 2013 is for only the first three quarters of the year, not the full year, if I am not mistaken. Yet the article makes it seem like it is for the entire year. That should be fixed in one way or another. (Lilicneiu (talk) 06:54, 1 April 2014 (UTC)).
 * Fixed.-- AirWolf  talk  14:59, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

article needs a revamp
Some sources are not credible, the unemployment figure is wrong, the numbers need an update.Sinciere187 (talk) 05:11, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Agreed. There's also a lot of link rot. Buttons (talk) 04:33, 3 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Fixed over year ago.-- AirWolf  talk  15:01, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

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Q1/Q2 2020 in infobox
User keeps adding Q1 and Q2 2020 GDP growth to the infobox, which they probably reference to, judging from their edit summaries. The title of the article is Kovačević: Rast BDP-a u prvom kvartalu plus pet, u drugom 1 odsto, which roughly translates as Kovačević: GDP growth +5% in Q1, +1% in Q2. Well, fine, I mean it's one politician talking about the GDP, but that's not the main issue here. For some reason, this source also has some more text below the title (amazing, I know). For example, immediately below the title: "Rast BDP-a Srbije u prvom kvartalu ove godine mogao bi da bude plus pet odsto, a u drugom, od aprila do juna, prema svim sadašnjim pokazateljima jedan odsto"

which roughly translates as (emphasis mine): "Serbia's GDP growth in Q1 of this year could be +5%, while Q2, from April to June, according to current data, 1%"

So no, it's not +5% for Q1, and definitely not +1% for Q2 (though I believe the user has given up on adding Q2). Please don't add that content without a consensus, as you've been reverted multiple times. byteflush Talk 01:44, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Now it if published by Statistical Office of the Republic of Serbia,and growth in Q1 is 5%.So i was right. — Preceding unsigned comment added by KoNaRiA (talk • contribs) 17:14, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

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