Talk:Economy of fascist Italy

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Should This Article Be Deleted?
This article is more of an essay than a factual encyclopedia article. It uses reasoning and logic rather than clean cut facts to make judgements, this is why I believe it should either be cleaned up and put into factual encyclopedic format, or have it deleted and remade. Just a suggestion.

Kinneyboy90 05:27, 16 October 2005 (UTC)


 * It reads as original research, but may contain some facts not present in the various articles relating to the period of fascism within Italy. I'd like to see content merged into other articles, then perhaps we can delete this article when it is a redundant redirect. Rob Church Talk 03:57, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

I don't think so. It's quite bad but better than nothing. I'll do my best to clean it up and perhaps sparce up the references. Savidan 21:07, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Yes, delete it. The logic that it is better than nothing is just plain idiotic. I can't really be nice about it. This article is pure crap. --70.131.90.151 (talk) 23:20, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

This article is fine. How we should view fascist economic policy is no doubt an open question, but most comments in this article have fairly broad support among historians, and while statistics are generally lacking, the moderate and non-committal tone of most of this page fits very well with the current tone of historical discussion of fascism. It does cite generally accepted facts (certainly mostly facts appearing elsewhere on wikipedia in discussion of fascist Italy,) albeit not very specifically. Certainly there could be improvements, but this is well written, fairly accurate, and representative of scholarly discussion at this time. The comments someone made on the misuse of the word sought ("Mussolini neither had nor sought,") seem odd to me, because we regularly infer intentions in our writing in English, even though there is rarely a strong explicit basis for our conclusions. Instead, we rely on a general sense of how people behaved over time, and represent that sum as their intentions, which works decently in this case. I think that phrase should be left the way it is, given that there are plenty of qualifiers nearby. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.8.237.197 (talk) 01:06, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

This page is characterised by a lack of evidence as a whole and opinions rather than factual statements. To add insult to injury, there are grammatical errors - I have tried to correct some of these. (user: unknown) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.14.224.136 (talk) 20:01, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Internal disputes in encyclopedic entry
quote:

"To those arguing that Fascist policy was not clear, the view in the preceding paragraphs is based on a naive acceptance of Italian propaganda. Mussolini knew close to nothing of economics and did not care greatly; he put little pressure on industry and the government efforts were ad hoc, rather than following a clearly defined policy. Indeed, certain historians have argued that Italian fascism was actually a negative force on the Italian economy - holding back genuine modernisation and badly distorting economic development, even before the war."

Internal editor disputes? No go. Marked as NPOV-section. - Peter Bjørn Perlsø (talk) 01:52, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Unjustifiable claims.
This article is full of non-encyclopedic content, and apparently someone is claiming to be a practicing necromancer, who knows the inner motivations of a dead person. For example:

''Benito Mussolini came to power in 1922 and transformed the country's economy along fascist ideology. He was not an economic radical; while he reshaped the political scene he neither had nor sought a free-hand with the economy.''

What Mussolini might or might not have sought (as taken apart from what he actually said or did) is, quite simply, unknowable. So this is tripe. That doesn't even get into unjustifiable statements like "he was not an economic radical", which apparently derives from some sort of essence that only the original author can know. Pretty much only the first sentence of the quoted section is capable of being kept. --70.131.90.151 (talk) 23:15, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Merging this article with Economy of Italy under Fascism
I think it should be merged as soon as possible. --Conte di Cavour (talk) 11:29, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Employment
What policies Mussolini used to raise employment in Italy?

The source for Mussolini calling his policies "state capitalism" and "state socialism" doesn't say that
The source for these claims is An Economic History of Twentieth-Century Europe, which I have a digital copy of. I searched through it with the "find" feature, and found no such quote. State capitalism is referred to four times, all four times being quotations of Lenin either referring to Nazi Germany or simply ruminating on the concept as a whole. State socialism is found 15 times, always in reference to the Soviet Union or the Eastern bloc. We should replace this passage with a viable source for what Mussolini called his economic system, or else replace it. I will try to replace it myself.

Jasper0333 (talk) 21:34, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

Request Edit. February 6,2024
The Title of "Economy of fascist Italy" needs to be changed to "Economy of Fascist Italy".The Letter F on the Fascist word needs to be big. Thanks Jheeeeeeteegh (talk) 03:36, 6 February 2024 (UTC)