Talk:Ecosphere (aquarium)

Article title
This article doesn't represent a global view on the subject of ecospheres; the "ecosphere" is typically defined as the biosphere of a planet plus its abiotic elements. This page, however, looks more like it's an ad written by the company that makes EcoSpheres (the product). So, especially since this article has the title of "Ecosphere (science)", it should probably be rewritten to be an article about Earth's ecosphere and self-contained ecosystems in general, and we could create another article for "EcoSphere (product)", or something, for information about the EcoSphere. I've added the advert, cleanup, and globalize templates. Does anyone want to create a new article for EcoSpheres and rewrite this one? I'm too lazy to do it myself - lol.


 * Agreed. This article is spam for one company who trademarked a broader term in the us. It needs a word one rewrite to reflect the broader meaning of an echosphere in science (any small spherical enclosed system).Focomoso (talk) 07:19, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

I think I fixed it.....
I agree that the article was too much like an advertisement; and it contained some plagarism from other websites too. I've completely rewritten it today.

Gulabau


 * Agreed, I am removing the tag. LeilaniLad (talk) 04:16, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Magnetic scrubber
isn't that cheating? I mean it's outside influence keeping things nicer..
 * The main purpose of the magnet is to clean the glass for observations. I haven't use the magnet on mine for a long time and the glass "fogged up", but it didn't affect anything other than not being able to view the contains clearly. Cl191 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 19:28, 5 March 2009 (UTC).

Accessible articles and abstracts on equilibrium biotic systems.
(article accessibe pdf) http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/432038

http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/pdf/10.1086/432038

(proposal accesible pdf) http://www.bio.vu.nl/thb/research/proposal/debsys.pdf

(abstract accessible) http://www.springerlink.com/content/k40v015214v72455/

(article accessible pdf) http://www.bio.vu.nl/thb/research/bib/KooiPogg2002.pdf

(article accessible pdf) http://www.com.univ-mrs.fr/~poggiale/Pubs/EcoMod2002.pdf

Might be nice to see if it integrates with the article and adds useful references. There are experiments out there referring to the important study of small sized equilibrium or variable closed-system-living-masses, open to light energy flux, also related to abiogenesis, showing that closed mass chemical reaction systems that are alive can exist, and approach abiogenesis from the complex down, as much as Oparin, Miller-Urey, Joan Oro, cover the abiogenesis issues from the atoms up, as the limit function is approached from both sides. Such systems, because they are small and mass-sealed, can permit influences like a water bath to keep temperature stable, and mechanical agitators that are internal, to simulate mixing. As long as mass is sealed, and earth like homeostasis is preserved, it shows complex biochemical reactions in a mass-sealed-only closed system in complex dynamic equilibrium, that can be demonstrated with probabilities of particular ecosystem lifespans extending for days, months, years, or indefinitely(?), with energy flux, daily normal temperature fluctuations, and mixing alone, and not break the laws of thermodynamics with life. The thinking being, that the earth is essentially a closed system in space, but is open to sunlight, and the internal agitations caused by weather that keep the terrerium of the earth clean. Not cheating, in a sealed-mass-system. LoneRubberDragon (talk) 05:39, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

What?
I don't see how the article is written like an advertisement. It all looks like neutral info to me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.98.128.11 (talk) 15:12, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
 * It is vastly improved from when I originally tagged the article. It can still use more sourcing, but the ad tag can come off. oknazevad (talk) 23:46, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Konstantin Tsiolkovsky in the 1950s & 1960s?
The article currently states:

"Research on closed ecosystems was initiated by Vladimir Vernadsky's 1926 book "The Biosphere" and Konstantin Tsiolkovsky in the 1950s and 1960s in Russia..."

Tsiolkovsky's work was in the 1880s through 1930s. He died in 1935. He did pioneer the concept of closed ecosystems for space stations, but decades earlier than the article currently gives him credit for. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.74.191.229 (talk) 05:11, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

Why do they go bad?
What prevents them from lasting indefinitely? Has there been any studies with a big sample of autopsies of those things to see if there is any pattern? --TiagoTiago (talk) 04:21, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

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