Talk:Ed McMahon/Archives/2013

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Neighborhood Watch
What was the website listed in McMahon's neighborhood watch commercials?- JustPhil 20:23, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Star Search
The sentence "...knack at contestants..." makes no sense. What is it trying to say?

Home in foreclosure
Major news event as reported in the WSJ http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121254369208443705.html?mod=rss_whats_news_us should be worked into the story. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.22.24.5 (talk) 03:23, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Plagiarism
I'm not wiki savvy enough to fix this, but the "Legal Problems" section as edited by 68.231.221.12 contains copy and paste, word for word plagiarism from a recent Associated Press article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.227.161.23 (talk) 19:23, 19 July 2008 (UTC)


 * The edit in question is here. I've removed that text.  I don't know how to cite the AP story in a way that could easily be checked by someone after some time has passed, but see for example Times Leader, NPR (datelined LOS ANGELES July 25, 2008, 06:21 pm ET but that I guess is just when NPR republished it or when the AP put out a revised version, as this doesn't look like a case in which someone else got the text from wikipedia), and many other google hits on a search for some of the text in question. Thanks for reporting this, 96.227.161.23.  I would also remind everyone of the biographies of living persons policy. Kingdon (talk) 03:27, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

There's still a ton of this stuff... look at the bottom half of the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.146.208.157 (talk) 02:20, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Military title
In the intro, he is referred to by his military rank and branch of service. That is a practice normally reserved for people who are primarily known for their military careers, not entertainers. His military career is mentioned fairly prominently in the article. --rogerd (talk) 19:30, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Reference to flying O-1E Bird Dog aircraft in Korean War is incorrect. The O-1E is a designation that came into use in 1962 for Army aircraft. What Ed McMahon flew in the Korean War was the Marine Corps OE-1 (essentially the same aircraft as the 1962 and later O-1E. The re-designation of the OE-1 occurred in 1962 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_military_aircraft_designation_systems According to http://www.designation-systems.net/usmilav/1962redesignations.html aircraft New          Old          Service Designation  Designation     O-1A         L-19A       Army O-1B         OE-1        Navy (includes Marines) O-1C         OE-2        Navy (includes Marines) TO-1D        TL-19D      Army O-1E         L-19E       Army This is corroborated by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O-1_Bird_Dog

Death
CNN, Yahoo! News, or msnbc.com have NO information on his death.....where is this sourced? 12.19.50.73 (talk) 04:24, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

You're right. Refs to death are back out. --Swinterich (talk) 05:12, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Someone must be anxious to put him in the ground. Although pneumonia at age 86 is not good. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 05:19, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

This needs to be removed until it is true. Or at least sourced.Maybenot28 (talk)maybenot28 —Preceding undated comment added 05:45, 28 February 2009 (UTC).


 * FYI, there is a debate right now on the 2009 talk page, about whether to add Ed McMahon to the list of deaths in 2009. Apparently, there is specific criteria on that page, for whose deaths are notable and whose are not, based on the number of international articles. I personally think that it is ridiculous, because if Wikipedia is supposed to be a collection of verifiable information, there is no question that he died on June 23 of this year. Yet the consensus is not to add him, until he has met the minimum number of articles in foreign languages. I will not get into an edit war by trying to add him again, and I will respect the wishes of the other editors, by leaving it for someone else to add him once he has met that criteria. Fortdj33 (talk) 18:27, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Obviously, Michael Jackson will get added. But see if Farrah Fawcett gets added. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 22:39, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Fawcett was added to 2009 within minutes of her death, and rightfully so. She was very famous in many countries and has articles in plenty of languages. McMahon, however, was only famous in the USA and only has 6 foreign language articles. Hence he belongs on 2009 in the United States, but not on 2009. Information yes (talk) 13:35, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * But Billy Mays was added the very day he died (today) but he doesn't have any translated articles. Getting on that page isn't like a huge honor, it's not a big deal if someone with only three translated pages is put on it. Plus, the other languages don't matter since it's the English 2009 article so only people who actually speak English are going to look at it, a large portion of whom are from America, where Ed McMahon was famous.-Skyler 18:44, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Billy Mays was removed from the 2009 page just as quickly as Ed McMahon was. I agree that the foreign language articles requirement is silly, since it is the English 2009 article, but I guess that is why Wikipedia has multiple articles with the same information...  Fortdj33 (talk) 12:31, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Can anyone explain why his birth is important enough to place on the 1923 list but his death isn't important enough to place on the 2009 list? Seems to me if his contributions to the entertainment industry weren't important enough to be listed under deaths for 2009 then he wasn't important enough to list as birth on 1923. I think the man made significant contributions to entertainment and that should be deserving enough. Anyone know if he had a star on the Hollywood walk of fame if so that should get him on the list at least. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nathan.alumbaugh (talk • contribs) 01:08, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

The rules for recent years are different, due to the much larger coverage of recent events. Hence he is deserving of his place on 1923. He is on Deaths in 2009, 2009 in the United States, 2009 in television and the Recent deaths sidebar of Portal:Current events. He was almost unknown outside the US, hence he is not important enough for the 2009 article, which is only for international events. Information yes (talk) 06:48, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Does anyone know the cause? I've seen sources that state it was pneumonia, but I don't think they are reliable enough. Information yes (talk) 12:27, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Birth?
The sidebar says Ed was born in Lowell, MA but the article says Detroit. Which is true? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.198.187.14 (talk) 12:26, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

I just un-deaded him again (7:48p PST 2/28/09). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.240.116.22 (talk) 03:49, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Actually the article states he was born in California and raised in Lowell, web info has him being born in Detroit, Michigan, USA???l santry (talk) 12:35, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

If not born in Lowell, Mass, reference to "His first broadcasting job was at WLLH-AM in his native Lowell" is in error. Perhaps, "boyhood home, Lowell" would be better. Mention should be made in "he began his television career in Philadelphia at WCAU-TV" to his appearance as a clown on "Big Top".

Cash 4 Gold?
I've recently seen him in and mentioned on Cash 4 Gold ads on Myspace - I was wondering if they just used stock photography or if he is an actual endorser. MegaZega93 (talk) 05:38, 9 April 2009 (UTC)


 * According to CNN American Morning Tuesday 23 June 2009 @ 8:25 AM EST, he was a paid celebrity actor in the adverts. 70.29.212.226 (talk) 12:28, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Time to "semi protect" ? the vandals are swarming
can't remember how to request/suggest--71.183.238.134 (talk) 15:05, 23 June 2009 (UTC)


 * i now see that someone put under protection - but no icon (or other indication that it is "protected")--71.183.238.134 (talk) 15:07, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Got it. It was protected, but the icon hadn't been added. I went ahead and did so. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 15:31, 23 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you from this user. I think it should have been done several weeks ago, but that is just me. TristaBella (user Triste Tierra - not allowed to log in at work) 24.176.191.234 (talk) 19:27, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Cash4Gold.com
The current article incorrectly mentions that Ed appeared in a superbowl ad for "Cash for Gold." Ed actually was an endorser for Cash4Gold.com and appeared in Cash4Gold's Superbowl ad. "Cash for Gold" is an ambiguous reference that does not accurately reflect the real Cash4Gold.com that Ed endorsed. Moreover the FOR URL is owned by a different company than Cash4Gold.com.

(Source: go to http://www.cash4gold.com - view Superbowl commercial in videos on front page)

Gtewari (talk) 15:50, 23 June 2009 (UTC)GGtewari (talk) 15:50, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Another reason to limit editing to registered users
I am not being a hypocrite by not being logged on right now - I would be glad to give up editing under my IP address (am not allowed to log in at work) and only edit logged in at home if Wikipedia did not allow anon IP's to edit and limited access by new users (redlink users?) who appear (to me anyway) to be responsible for the majority of the vandalism. I mean, come on - the guy was a cultural icon and just died...why do these people have to put in these nasty comments about him? Sure, joke have been made about McMahon throughout his career, and especially since end of his Tonight Show gig and the death of Johnny Carson, but I personally think it's very rude. Alright, getting off my soapbox now. I just needed to let that out. TristaBella (user Triste Tierra - unable to log in at work) 24.176.191.234 (talk) 19:25, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

World War II service
http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/2009/06/marine_mcmahon_062309w/

This source states that he received his orders on 6 August 1945. This website would seem to be trustworthy. I did not hunt down the 2006 reference on archive.org for comparison.

Ed did a Coast to Coast AM interview with George Noory. He stated that he had over 1000 hours in the F4U Corsair and trained members of the Black Sheep Squadron. The 1000 hours qualified him to take part in the first all-Marine aircraft carrier. He stated that the fleet was not assembled before the war ended.

Coincidentally, Johnny Carson was also was called up at the very end of the war. 69.64.235.42 (talk) 08:13, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Also, it appears that his retirement date is incorrect. I suspect it should be 1966, not 1999. See this article: http://www.militarymuseum.org/McMahon.html --98.161.53.206 (talk) 18:52, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Scrubs?
I'm fairly certain McMahon was referenced in a Scrubs episode and even made a cameo appearance? I do not remember the episode title, but it is in season 4 when J.D. had left his and Turk's apartment and was searching for a new apartment. He thought he was at Doug's house, but somebody else opened the door. I did not recognize the person at first, but now with the reference to his surprising people with money and J.D.'s utterance of "You are correct, sir!," I am fairly certain it is him. Can anyone confirm this? If so, I think it should be added to the "References in Popular Culture" section. Thanks! -- Jeff 70.177.170.43 (talk) 03:35, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

I actually found confirmation of this information and have added it to the correct section. That being said, I have not edited a Wikipedia page before and am therefore sure it is full of mistakes--especially the references addition. If anybody could please proofread it for me as I do not know the correct format, that would be great, thanks. -- Jeff 70.177.170.43 (talk) 03:53, 1 July 2009 (UTC)