Talk:Eddie Rocket's

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Johnny Rockets
Someone needs to overtly address the relationship or lack thereof between Johnny Rockets and Eddie Rockets. If you google it you'll see that a lot of people think they're the same restaurant, and the picture of Eddie Rockets in this article is of a Johnny Rockets.--Mrcolj (talk) 17:11, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
 * The picture in the article is captioned, "American 1950s style diner in Denver". It does not say it is an Eddie Rocket's restaurant, because Eddie Rocket's does not operate in the United States, rather, it is precisely this style of diner which the Irish franchise emulates. — O'Dea  (talk) 06:53, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
 * That's a pretty thin justification for including this picture. I think it hurts more than helps. Mrcolj is right that it will cause unnecessary confusion. I'm going to take the picture out, this article can go without a picture until somebody takes a picture of an actual Eddie Rocket's.&mdash; Chowbok  ☠  06:58, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Diner genre
The picture in the article is captioned, "American 1950s style diner in Denver". It does not say it is an Eddie Rocket's restaurant, because Eddie Rocket's does not operate in the United States, rather, it is precisely this style of diner which the Irish franchise emulates. That is one solid reason for the picture's relevance to the article. The caption does not say, "Eddie Rocket's"; it says, "American 1950s style diner". What it shows is clear from the caption and from the self-describing and self-documenting logo in it. The article states, "It offers American-style food in 1950s' style diners (similar to the Johnny Rockets diner restaurants in the United States)" and the photograph is pertinent for that reason – it illustrates the diner mentioned, and the genre from which Eddie Rocket's clearly takes its inspiration. The image itself and the caption make it glaringly obvious that the picture is not an Eddie Rocket's restaurant. Readers are not blind, by definition. Please do not remove this image without gaining consenus by discussion. — O'Dea (talk) 19:18, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, so far the consensus is against you, 2-1. This isn't the Diner article, so there's no need to have an "example" picture. Either we should have a picture that depicts the subject of this article, or no picture at all. We wouldn't put a picture of Burger King on the McDonald's article, even though they are the same "style" of restaurant. &mdash; Chowbok  ☠  20:02, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
 * 1. Where is this 2:1 consensus? 2. Two people is not a consensus. 3. The article refers to Johnny Rocket's so the image is relevant. 4. Eddie Rocket's is a precise type of diner, as exemplified and preceded by Johnny Rocket's. 5. If there were no images of McDonald's available, then a Burger King image pointing out that they are similar, and showing a style of fast food restaurant, would be perfectly legitimate until a picture of McDonalds came along. A picture of Eddie Rocket's would be preferable, and perhaps one can be found to replace the existing style or genre picture in due course. An Eddie Rocket's picture can be requested; many Wikipedians in Ireland may be near one. — O'Dea  (talk) 20:56, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
 * It's better to have no picture than a picture that only serves to confuse people.&mdash; Chowbok  ☠  01:20, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Next time I visit Ennis, I will take pictures of the local Eddie Rocket's to solve this problem. Night of the Big Wind  talk  10:58, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

RFC on page photo
Should a photo of a Johnny Rocket's restaurant be included in this article?&mdash; Chowbok  ☠  01:27, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * If this is an article about a business which operates in Ireland, it may not be helpful to illustrate it with a picture of the exterior of a similarly named business in a different country unless there's some other direct connection that I'm not aware of (and if there were a connection, we should make it very clear in text and stave off any ambiguity). Are any other pictures available? At a pinch, I could live with an interior shot of a non-eddie-rockets-diner, as long as we're really sure it's showing off the kind of interior that is central to Eddie Rocket's business model (and as long as it doesn't have somebody else's branding all over it).
 * On the other hand, it should be possible to construct a fair-use justification for including ER's logo. Alternatively, has anybody tried contacting and asking if they could provide a good photo for the article? Most businesses would jump at the chance to flaunt their product on en.wikipedia. bobrayner (talk) 20:16, 30 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Absurd This makes as much sense as slapping a picture of Frederick IX of Denmark on the Horik I article with the caption "Danish-style king". Much better off with no picture at all. InedibleHulk (talk) 03:36, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

I consulted Wikipedia's guidelines on the pertinence of images. As applies to this situation, the guidelines include the following, which I found applicable and helpful: ''Because the Wikipedia project is in a position to offer multimedia learning to its audience, images are an important part of any article's presentation. Effort should therefore be made to improve quality and choice of images or captions in articles rather than favoring their removal, especially on pages which have few visuals.'' Although it is clear that an image of Eddie Rocket's would be more pertinent than the one of Johnny Rocket's, it might be worth considering keeping the current image until a more relevant one can be found to replace it. Coastside (talk) 12:30, 7 June 2012 (UTC)


 * No While it's useful to have images as Coastside points out, I don't think we should feel pressured to get an image for this article. One will be found eventually - either an editor will take a photo or the company will supply one. Wikipedia is a work in progress and it's healthier for us individually and as an editing community to take a relaxed attitude about perfecting it. Joja  lozzo  16:34, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
 * No So many of these arguments seem to be based on the idea that a suitable replacement photo would be difficult to find.  This link, for starters, contains a bunch of photos that would be both good enough, totally legal, and totally in compliance with Wikipedia's policies (open sourced yet free for commercial use, etc.), including this one!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrcolj (talk • contribs) 04:24, 12 June 2012 (UTC)


 * No It is absolutely ridiculous that its on the page. I see it has been reverted again by O'Dea. I going to proceed to revert his edit, and alert him that he may be partaking in edit warring, and in the wrong, as per the consensus here. --NorthernCounties (talk) 13:22, 12 June 2012 (UTC)


 * No Different chain. Next time I visit Ennis, I will take pictures of the local Eddie Rocket's to solve this problem. Night of the Big Wind  talk  10:59, 13 June 2012 (UTC)


 * No Different Chain and likelihood of future Fair Use image probable. --MOLEY (talk) 01:15, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

As promised...
The photo: Night of the Big Wind talk  18:15, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

Can we remove...
the requested photo category now or is another photo required? Jaqian (talk) 12:15, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I have removed the photo-request. A picture of one of their restaurants seems more suitable then a picture of their headquarters. Night of the Big Wind talk 13:09, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Non-Irish locations
I see no mention of the restaurant having locations in Wales or Spain yet...there are recent reviews for the Eddie Rocket's in Swansea on trip advisor. Something I'm missing here or don't they have the non-Irish (ROI and NI) locations listed on their website!?--Shannon Dal (talk) 10:31, 13 March 2015 (UTC)