Talk:Eden Isle, Louisiana

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This is a large subdivision. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.145.220.218 (talk) 16:33, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

To whomever it concerns
This place is a large subdivision. I have no Idea where the author got the population for it, this subdivision is a very narrow strip of land on Lake Ponchartrian. Whoever keeps putting this article back up must live their or is the developer and is selling land(Marsh that is being drained). ````James —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.145.220.218 (talk) 14:52, 20 September 2007 (UTC)


 * The article does not state the Eden Isles is a city, it states that it is a Census designated place. All the information regarding the geography and demographics comes from the Census Bureau.  VerruckteDan 22:04, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Look at the map,http://www.edenisles.com/covenants/satellite.htm. Do you think that 6000+ people live their. Next you can find the history of Eden Isle inc. at http://www.edenisles.com/covenants/history.htm, Third my mother in law lives their and I promise that Slidell police patrol their and they pay Slidell city taxes, forth the city of New Orleans has wanted to include surrounding parishes since the mid 80s when most of the white middle class left Orleans parish . and I have lived the this area for 25 years. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.145.220.218 (talk) 23:57, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Look at the Census Bureau page here. A Census-designated place is not a political division of a state or parish (not incorporated). It is designated by the census for statistical puproses. Every CDP in the USA has an article in Wikipedia. Here is the census map that shows what the census defines as Eden Isle (much bigger than what you describe). Please stop your vandalism or be blocked again, next time almost cvertainly for longer. Thanks, Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 00:52, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Hey man I am not trying to offend any one, but have you seen this area before, today 50-70 percent of Eden Isles inc. is gone. The storm surge that hit was 14-16 feet tall. It rolled all the way to Slidell, the google earth picture is from 2.5 years ago. a topograpic map might help. and every cdp does not have an article ie what about lee rd or bush la. One more thing by the definition of a cdp it is extremely fluid. So in the next census the cdp might not exist.
 * The Census defines what is and is not a CDP - there are only two in St. Tammany Parish: this and Lacombe. The US Constitution mandates a new census every ten years. If you have reliable sources on the history of this CDP, by all means add the information to the article and cite your sources. If you all want to do is vandalize it, your edits will be reverted and you will be blocked again. It's your decision - I hope you add to the encyclopedia constructively, thanks, Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 02:53, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

census-designated place (CDP) is a type of place, an area identified by the United States Census Bureau for statistical purposes. CDPs are delineated for each decennial census as the statistical counterparts of incorporated places such as cities, towns and villages. CDPs are communities that lack separate municipal government, but which otherwise physically resemble incorporated places. CDPs are delineated to provide data for settled concentrations of population that are identifiable by name but are not legally incorporated under the laws of the state in which they are located. The boundaries of a CDP have no legal status.[1] In some states the communities identified as CDPs are legally called "unincorporated communities."[citation needed]

The boundaries of such places may be defined in cooperation with local or tribal officials, but are not fixed, and do not affect the status of local government or incorporation; the territories thus defined are strictly statistical entities. CDP boundaries may change from one census to the next to reflect changes in settlement patterns. Further, as statistical entities, the boundaries of the CDP may not correspond with local understanding of the area with the same name. Recognized communities may be divided into two or more CDPs while on the other hand, two or more communities may be combined into one CDP. A CDP may also cover the unincorporated part of a named community where the rest lies within an incorporated place.

By defining an area as a CDP, that locality then appears in the same category of census data as incorporated places. This distinguishes CDPs from other census classifications, such as minor civil divisions (MCDs), which are in a separate category.

The population and demographics of the CDP district are included in the data of county subdivisions containing the CDP. In no case is a CDP defined within the boundaries of what the Census Bureau regards to be an incorporated city, village or borough. However, note that the Census Bureau considers Towns in New England states and New York as well as Townships in some other states as MCDs, even though they are incorporated municipalities in those states.

The Census Bureau reported data for some unincorporated places as early as the 1850 census, though usage continued to evolve through the 1890 census, in which, for the first time, the Census mixed-in unincorporated places with incorporated places in its products with "town" as its label. This made it very confusing to determine which of the "towns" were or were not incorporated. The 1900 through 1930 censuses did not report data for unincorporated places. For the 1940 census, the Census Bureau compiled a separate report of unofficial, unincorporated communities of 500 or more people. The Census Bureau officially recognized "unincorporated places" in the 1950 census, when these types of places were only recognized outside urbanized areas. In 1960, the Census Bureau for the first time recognized unincorporated territory inside urbanized areas, but with a population of at least 10,000. For the 1980 census, the designation was changed to "census-designated places". From 1950 through the 1990 Census, the Census Bureau had population requirements for unincorporated places or CDPs. This minimum population requirement was dropped with the 2000 census. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.145.220.218 (talk) 02:59, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

If you will read below that is the history of this subdivision off thier own website (not copywriten) up till 1995. After that the private roads that had been paid for with public money were opend to public traffic, and the guard houses shutdown. By the way here is a link to google maps showing st tammany parish and you can see much greater detail. View Larger Map Vesago1978 04:17, 23 September 2007 (UTC)jme1 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.145.220.218 (talk) 03:02, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

So
This is a large subdivision, whoever keeps reloading the article is not aware of this.I am not trying to make advertisement this is there self history.

1964

A Mandeville group headed by Ernest Loeb bought a large drainage district track of land south of Slidell and announced plans for a major development.

1965

Hurricane Betsy hit the New Orleans area.

1969

The Eden Isles Development Begins - Leisure Inc., a Monroe-based company headed by William Boles and Jamar Adcock obtained 5,300 acres of marsh south of Slidell, bisected by Interstate 10 and began development of Eden Isles.

August 15, 1969 hurricane Camille hit Pass Christian, Mississippi.

Eden Isles Pioneers - After construction began, Eden Isles had to overcome several obstacles to convince people to buy property in Eden Isles. The land was a flat reclaimed marsh without trees and a lake breeze that constantly blew construction debris and dust across the subdivision. You could see for miles in all directions, Eden Isles looked more like a desert than Garden of Eden. It was hard to convince some people to buy in Eden Isles because with the strong breeze that constantly blew across the vast open land they were concerned about hurricanes. Others were concerned about soil subsidence, because Eden Isles was reclaimed from a marsh. The concerns about soil subsidence have since proven unfounded since our soil is hard clay on top of sand strata and we have never experienced any subsidence.

The developer showed pictures of the future golf course, marina, and clubhouse. The developer provided a security guard at the Hwy. entrance and maintained the common grounds. The sales office was located on Hwy.11, at the entrance to Eden Isles, and the salesmen took people on tour through the main canals on a large motor yacht. A large observation tower was constructed on Windward Passage for people to see the still undeveloped areas and pick out their lots. Eden Isles was a wilderness full of ducks, snakes, nutrias and alligators and the first inhabitants were true pioneers.

The first homes build along Eden Isles Drive and the clubhouse were designed in the Polynesian style. The clubhouse was located at the end of Pebble Beach Drive and was used for many social events (when Landmark Land Co. bought out Eden Isles Inc. they burned down the clubhouse, redesigned the gulf course and turned the end of Pebble Beach into a cul-de-sac).

1974

Save Our Wetlands files Suit to Stop Eden Isles Development - In 1974, Save Our Wetlands Inc. filed suit against Leisure Inc., St. Tammany Parish, and the Corps of Engineers to halt the Eden Isles project. Most of the residents living in Eden Isles attended the hearings in federal court, and the Homeowners' Association collected donations, hired an attorney, and intervened in the suit as a defendant.

The Eden Isles Homeowners' Association adopted their By-laws - November 17, 1974.

1977

Eden Isles Developer Goes Bankrupt - In 1977, Leisure Inc. defaulted on its loan and was taken over by Eden Isles, Inc., a company controlled by the Security Pacific National Bank of Los Angles. As a result of the bankruptcy development of Eden Isles came to a standstill. It was later speculated that the development failed because it was too ambitious for the market with unrealistic sales projections and poor access (Hwy. 11 only).

1978

The Eden Isles Garden Club was formed

The Krewe of the Bilge has its first boat parade consisting of about a dozen boats going through the waterways to the backs of residents' homes and throwing carnival beads and trinkets. The very first residence of Eden Isles, Harry and Natalie Pierre, were the first king and queen of the Bilge.

1979

Save Our Wetlands Loses their law Suit - In 1979, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled against Save Our Wetlands Inc. and said the Eden Isles development could continue. Times-Picayune (10/30/79)

1980

Moonraker Homeowners Association was registered with the state of Louisiana in 1980.

1981

The Eden Isles Security Committee Was Formed to collect contributions and hirer private security guard to man the guardhouse at Hwy. 11. The developer, at no charge to the property owners, had been providing the security guard, but when the development was taken over by Eden Isles, Inc., as a result of the bankruptcy, this free amenity ended.

Eden Isles Homeowners' Association Declares Subdivision Off Limits To Aircraft - October 22, 1981, the St. Tammany Parish Council at the request of the Eden Isles Homeowners' Association passed Ordinance 81-298. The ordinance makes it unlawful for aircraft to take off, land, or taxi in or on any road or waterway located within Eden Isles. The Eden Isles Homeowners’ Association pursued this ordinance as a direct result of seaplanes and helicopters landing in the subdivision.

1983

Eden Isles Homeowners' Association Gets Single Family Zoning For Unit 4 - January 25, 1983, the Eden Isles Homeowners' Association petitioned the St. Tammany Parish to re-zone Unit 4, from R-Rural to single family residential, A-4 designation.

Eden Isles To Get Street Lights - In August 1983 Lighting District # 7 was created to provide street lights in Eden Isles and other areas on the Northshore.

1985

Eden Isles Homeowners' Association Brings Charges against Pilot - April 20, 1985, a seaplane crashed while attempting to land in the waterway between Hwy. 11 and Moonraker, no one was injured. The Eden Isles Homeowners' Association was fed up with pilots landing their aircraft in our subdivision and asked the Sheriff's Office to ticket the pilot in accordance with the Parish ordinance passed in 1981. The Sheriff's Office refused to issue the ticket and the Homeowners' Association took their case directly to the District Attorney. The Pilot was later charged and fined $200 and found guilty of pilot error by the Federal Safety Board. As a result of the extensive newspaper articles written about this issue and the Eden Isles Homeowners' Association involvement with the FAA, word got out and aircraft stopped landing in Eden Isles.

Hurricane Juan Hits Eden Isles - 1985, Hurricane Juan was a very small hurricane that lingered off the coast of Louisiana for days and pushed more water into Eden Isles than any of the long time residents could ever remember. However, even with the strong tidal surge of hurricane Juan the water still did not flood any homes or cover the streets, with the exception of a few locations where clogged drainage culverts prevented the streets from draining.

1987

Landmark Land Co. Buys Eden Isles Inc. - 1987, Landmark Land Co. acquired Eden Isles Inc. for $14 million from Security Pacific National Bank of Los Angles. The entire purchase included 171 existing home lots in Eden Isles and approximately 4,600 acres of undeveloped land straddling the interstate. As a condition of the sale Security Pacific guaranteed that the Eden Isles I-10 interchange that was begun in January of 1987, would be completed (City Business, 10/24/88).

Eden Isles Homeowners' Association Keeps the Hwy. 11 Bridge Open - The Louisiana State Highway Department recommended closing the Hwy. 11 bridge permanently. The Highway Department said the bridge pilings are badly deteriorated and that wrecks on the narrow roadway are likely to cost Louisiana big money in court. Eden Isles Homeowners' Association joined with other residential and business associations to fight attempts to close the Hwy. 11 bridge. The bridge opened in 1928 as the privately owned, $5million Watson-Williams toll bridge. The state took it over 10 years later and lifted the tolls.

1988

A Community Services District Was Formed For Eden Isles - In 1988, Louisiana House Bill No. 801 was passed to create the Eden Isles Community Services District. The purpose of the district was to allow us to tax ourselves and the revenue from this tax would remain in Eden Isles and be governed by a board of five Eden Isles residents. The legislation would allow the "District" to enforce the Covenants and Restrictions, provide for cutting of vacant lots, and provide security, recreation and a host of other amenities. Under the legislation, the services district could levy a parcel fee to provide services, but only if a Majority of voters agree. The Community Services District was immediately challenged and much controversy followed which ultimately killed the district.

Eden Isles Homeowners' Association Makes Landmark Redesign the I-10 Access Road - On February 23, 1988, 400 people attended the Eden Isles Homeowners' Assoc. meeting to hear Landmark Land Co.'s presentation on how their development will enhance Eden Isles. At that time Landmark was trying their best to be seen as a good neighbor in order to get Eden Isles to drop its objections to the I-10 interchange plan. Landmark originally planed to channel all the traffic from the interstate directly through Eden Isles Drive to Hwy. 11. The Eden Isles Homeowners' Association objected and demanded that Oak Harbor provide a direct route from the interstate to Hwy. 11. Oak Harbor finally agreed to provide a four lane, 35 mph, direct access to Hwy. 11

In June 1988, The Eden Isles Sea Scout Troop was formed.

In June 1988, the Eden Isles Homeowners' Association entered into a licensing agreement with landmark Land Development Corp. for the right to use the Eden Isles Logo, which they acquired from Eden Isles, Inc. This agreement gives the Eden Isles Homeowners' Association the right to use the logo for promotional material as well as their official letterheads, etc.

Oak Harbor Is Started - In September 1988 Landmark Land Co. broke ground on the 4,600 acre Oak Harbor development.

In December 1988, Landmark Land Co. stopped their $1,500 security subsidy.

1989

Eden Isles Identity Crises - June 1989, Eden Isles residents feared that they were going to lose their identity. Soon after Landmark Land Co. bought out the developers of Eden Isles they began removing the Eden Isles name and replacing it with Oak Harbor, they said they would allow Eden Isles to change its name to Oak Harbor, an offer the Eden Isles residents declined. They closed down the Eden Isles golf course and burned down the Eden Isles Club House (literally). Then they changed the marina's name from Eden Isles to Oak Harbor. The Eden Isles name and Logo was removed from the Water tower and replaced with the Oak Harbor name and Logo. But when Landmark Land asked the state Department of Transportation and Development to put "Oak Harbor," not Eden Isles," on the new I-10 road signs the Eden Isles Homeowners' Association declared war and demanded that the name Eden Isles also appear on the sign and won. (Times Picayune 6/5/89)

Eden Isles Homeowners' Association Wins Fight to Eliminate Drainage Tax - December 1989, after a two year fight by the Eden Isles Homeowners' Association drainage district two's boundaries were redrawn to exclude Eden Isles and eliminate the drainage tax. Eden Isles had been paying a drainage tax for a forced drainage system using pumps when we have gravity drainage.

1990

I-10 Over Pass is opened - April 6, 1990 The Eden Isles I-10 over pass opened at a cost of $9 million.

The Eden Isles Homeowners' Association By-Laws are revised - November 27, 1990, The Eden Isles Homeowners' Association revised their By-laws.

1991

Eden Isles Fishing Rodeo - October 5 & 6, 1991, Eden Isles held its first Fishing Rodeo and it was a big success! Music was provided by two bands, Frankie and the Cruisers performed an outstanding Las Vegas style show, the dance floor located under the big tent was jammed. A raffle gave away a 19" TV, a microwave, a disc player, a VCR, a 10 speed bicycle, a Sony watchman TV, a cassette player, several stereo systems, cordless phone, fishing supplies, a hand painted Eden Isles buoy, hardware supplies, and much, much more. There were 101 entries in the Poker Run and the rodeo made over $9,000 for the Homeowners' Association 1992

Eden Isles Homeowners' Association Negotiates Lower Waste Disposal Rates - January 1992, the Eden Isles Homeowners' Association approached Waste Management and negotiated a rate reduction from $18 per month to $16 per month along with a senior citizen discount for those over 63 old.

Greenforce was started to cut the common grounds.

1993

The population of Eden Isles increases to over 900 homes.

Clipper Inc. applies for permit to develop property at the end of Moonraker Drive.

Wayward Manatee Moves into Eden Isles - The following is taken from the November 12, 1993 Times-Picayune: "A wily manatee played watery hide-and-seek Thursday with a small army of rescuers in Eden Isles. The manatee, estimated to be eight to 10 feet long and weighing 800 to 1,000 pounds, seemed almost magical as he eluded would be rescuers. Scores of Eden Isles residents, in a jovial, party mood, flocked to backyard wooden docks behind Eydie Lane and Charles Court armed with cameras, beer and fried chicken, to watch the daylong rescue effort. By nightfall, the elusive plant-eating aquatic mammal, who probably strayed during migration efforts was still swimming freely in the Eden Isles waterways. Residents first spotted the manatee Saturday and since have seen it circling around in the waterways.

Throughout the warm afternoon, the manatee, on schedule, would break the surface, a large black snout followed by a graceful arch, a huge brown back and flippers. It would then slide back underwater. Six divers from Marineland Oceanarium in Gulfport, Miss., spent several hours in the water, patiently moving a huge net in an attempt to capture the manatee. All efforts to capture the manatee failed and after several days the manatee simply disappeared.

1994

Moonraker Island Homeowners Association Tried To Reactivate Their Association - On October 3, 1994 a meeting was held at the Tammany Yacht Club to reactivate the Moonraker Island Homeowners Association (M.I.H.O.A). Some of the issues that were discussed were: The Clipper Island developer's desire to sell a strip of land that surrounds Moonraker Lake to the homeowners. The Clipper Island developer wants to secede from the Moonraker covenant and establish their own covenant.

1995

Tornado Hits Eden Isles - May 8, 1995 a tornado hit Eden Isles and does extensive damage to several homes, fortunately no one was hurt. It was heart warming to see how the community pitched in to help those in need.

The Famous May Flood Hits New Orleans And Slidell - May 10, 1995, The rains came and when they finally stopped much of New Orleans, Metairie and Slidell was flooded, but not Eden Isles. Because, Eden Isles is built up so high and drains directly in to Lake Pontchartrain Eden Isles didn't experience any flooding.

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