Talk:Edith Garrud

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See also Talk:Suffrajitsu
The talk page for Suffrajitsu has discussion that editors may find useful for this article. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 15:15, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

Personal life
According to scholar Emelyne Godfrey, a year after the Garruds took over Uyenishi’s dojo, she divorced William and opened a different School. link Is there another source for Edith and William Garrud continued to work as self-defence and jujutsu instructors until 1925, when they sold their school? not sure Vice is WP:RELIABLE here Lewolka (talk) 13:51, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Clifford (here) also says "They continued teaching self-defence until 1925". I'm going to try to get hold of the Woman article from 1965, as, although it's not independent, it might be the source for some of the claims made in other sources. (Godfrey cites the article in Femininity, Crime and Self-Defence in Victorian Literature and Society: From Dagger-Fans to Suffragettes, for example). Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 14:00, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I have also just found a mention in Murray here "Edith and William would continue to run the Golden Square dojo as owners and instructors until their retirement in 1925, when the training hall finally closed. The building itself was later demolished, leaving no trace of its existence." Lewolka (talk) 14:29, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Citation style
Hello what do you think about switching to sfn? Lewolka (talk) 14:14, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Happy with that; it should look neater than page numbers inline. Regards, 14:17, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Great I'll start with Godfrey Lewolka (talk) 14:54, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Bodyguard section title
I find the title of this section misleading as she did not train bodyguards but members of the WSPU's bodyguard unit. I'd like to change it to "Training the WSPU's bodyguard". In My Own Story Emmeline Pankhurst's Autobiography she writes: "The bodyguard and members of the audience vigorously repelled the attack, wielding clubs, batons, poles, planks, or anything they could seize, while the police laid about right and left with their batons" and "I had been surrounded by members of the bodyguard, who hurried me towards the stairs from the platform. The police, however, overtook us, and in spite of the resistance of the bodyguard, they seized me and dragged me down the narrow stair at the back of the hall." Lewolka (talk) 12:31, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Seems a logical change to me. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 22:56, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, will stop interfering now :) Lewolka (talk) 09:50, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for all your work on the article, . I think there are a few bits of tidying that can be done, like amending the bulleted section to prose, which I'll do. If I add any substantially new content I'll ping you. Do you have a case for suffrajitsu.com being a reliable source? It looks like a promotional website for the graphic novels. I've got access to the original article by Garrud via the British Newspaper Archive so that may be a substitute, despite being a primary source. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 18:28, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Hello You are right about suffrajitsu.com I have switched for better sources. Lewolka (talk) 11:22, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

Breaking down life section
I have quite expanded the Life section.... it may be worth breaking that content into: this way it may be easier to work on specific sections but I leave it up to you, stepping back now! :) Lewolka (talk) 10:40, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Early life and Jujutsu training
 * Women's suffrage
 * Articles and plays
 * Training the WSPU's bodyguard
 * Later life and legacy
 * Cultural depictions and memorials

DOB
Hello The only mention of her date of birth I could find so far is: "On her ninety-fourth birthday, a man named Godfrey Winn came to visit her." here and also: "It was June, 1965. to celebrate her birthday, he brought her a sugary lemon gâteau and his equally saccharine interview with her was printed in the popular magazine, Woman." (Godfrey 2012, p. 99) also: " it was not until June 1965, on Edith Garrud's 93rd birthday, that journalist Godfrey Winn, writing for Woman magazine, approached Edith for an interview " (Kelly, p. 18) "She regaled the journalist, Godfrey Wynn, who brought her a birthday cake" here (Photograph: in Woman, 19 June 1965;). So we only know the month, maybe the original article in Woman has the day if accessible in archives? Regards Lewolka (talk) 14:06, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi, . I took a copy of the original article, and it doesn't say when the actual birthday was as far as I can see. (93rd, not 94th, according to that article: the cake was baked for Garrud who "was about to become ninety-three years young") There are a couple of other statements that don't quite match up with other sources too. If you have wiki-email enabled I can ping something across. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 15:10, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
 * It might be 7 April 1872 . Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 15:45, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
 * wow that is a great find! I think the wiki-email thingie should work too thank you :) Lewolka (talk) 20:50, 15 November 2021 (UTC)