Talk:Edmund Ghareeb

I have not added promotional material. Dr. Ghareeb has retired, so it is relevant to change the wikipedia entry. It is important to list the universities that he has taught at. I feel as though I am being persecuted for no reason whatsoever. Honestly, what is promotional about what I wrote? There is nothing wrong with my change to his profile.

Edmund Ghareeb (Born in Aita al-Foukhar; إدموند غريب) is a Lebanese-American who is an internationally recognized expert on Iraq, the Middle East, the Kurds, the Arab and American Media, the Mahjar Press and authors, international affairs and U.S.-Arab Relations. He has taught at American University in Washington, Georgetown University’s School of Foreign Service, George Washington University's Elliott School of International Affairs, the University of Virginia, Pepperdine University and McGill University. He earned a BA from the American International College and an MA and a PhD from Georgetown University.

Edmund Ghareeb was the first Mustafa Barzani Distinguished Scholar in Global Kurdish Studies at the American University in Washington, D.C., and introduced the first regular courses to be taught in the US on Kurdish history, politics and culture. For several years he coordinated the Middle East studies Program at American University. He has also taught at Georgetown University’s School of Foreign Service in both Qatar and Washington, DC. He has written articles, chapters, and authored, edited or co-edited about 11 books and monographs dealing with the issues of Iraq, the Kurds, the Arabian Peninsula and the Fertile Crescent region, media coverage of the Middle East, new media and the technology revolution in the Arab world, and ethnic and religious groups in the Middle East

He was president and vice-president of the Arab American University Graduates Association, and  Vice President and board member of the Shaybani Society of International Law, vice president  and board of trustees member of the of the American Foreign Policy Institute and Advisory Board, member of the Institute of Middle East and North African Affairs,  the Middle East Journal, Silk-road  Journal,  the Foreign Language Center and others.

Dr. Ghareeb is one of the first media analysts to recognize the potential revolutionary and transformational roles to be played by New Media in the Arab world. This was presented in a paper delivered at the Aseelah Forum in Morocco and in two articles on the subject published by the Middle East Journal[4] and Bahithat [5] in 2000. His most recent work is a co-authored report entitled Iraqi Refugees: Their History, Cultures and Background Experiences.[6] His most recent book is "The Historical Dictionary of Iraq." In 2005, Library Journal described the book as one of the best reference works published in the United States in 2004. He has also authored "Split Vision: Portrayal of Arabs in the American Media" and is co-author of "War in the Gulf", issued in paperback by Oxford University Press. Dr. Ghareeb has lectured widely in the US, the Arab World, Asia, and Europe. He has lectured in Brazil, Hong Kong, and Portugal. He was a consultant for the United Nations Development Program. He has written articles about the Kurds, the Druze and Libya for "The Encyclopedia of World Politics and Religion", and was interviewed for several documentaries including: Al-Jazeera’s documentary on Kurdish leader Mulla Mustafa Barzani, Lucasfilm's documentary on Gertrude Bell, a documentary on the history of the Arab American immigration to the US for the Voice of America, and was also interviewed for a documentary on Arab Americans in the US for Alhurra TV. He was also an external peer reviewer for the UNDP Program and participated in the UN’s International Media Seminars in Austria, Brazil, and Portugal. He has given lectures at the Library of Congress on the Arabic language press in the US and on the Kurds and ethnic minorities in the Middle East. Ghareeb has worked as a consultant and as a journalist for many years. He was a Washington correspondent for The Beirut Daily Star and Al-Hayat newspapers and for Al-Ittihad and Emirates News and was a contributor to Al-Mustaqbal Magazine (Paris) and Events Magazines. He was a trustee and Vice President of The American Foreign Policy Institute and Advisory Board, member of a number of organizations and institutions including The National Newspaper Association, and of the Association's Foundation. He was a co-founder and editor of the Torch, an intercollegiate magazine and editor of Dialog, Georgetown University's graduate journal. He also testified on issues related to the Middle East and media affairs before the U.S. Congress.

Ghareeb has been a contributing analyst to the Associated Press on US foreign and domestic policies and on relations with Europe, China, Russia and the Middle East and North Africa. He has been a frequent commentator and analyst for numerous media outlets. These include Al Jazeerah, BBC Arabic and World Radio and TV, The PBS NewsHour, NPR, CNN and CNNI, Fox News since 1979, ABC News, NBC News, C-Span, Deutsche Welle  and RT TV (Arabic and English), CCTV, CGTN, Al Arabiya, MBC, Al Hadath, Al Ikhbariya, GLOBO TV, OMAN TV, KUWAIT TV, On TV, Nile TV, Egypt TV, Al Mamlakah TV, Syrian TV, Orient TV, CBC TV, LBCI TV, ANA TV, NNA TV, Al-Araby, Al-Mayadeen TV, OTV, Al Jadeed, Al Mustaqbal TV, Al Alam TV, Al Iraqiyaa. Al Sumariya TV, AL Sharqiyya TV, Algerian TV and Radio Monte Carlo, Medi 1 Radio and TV, Abu Dhabi TV, Dubai TV, TRT TV, Al-Iraqiyya, Rudaw TV, Orient TV, Al Sharq TV, Al Youm TV, France 24 TV, Al-Ikhbariya TV, VOA radio and TV, al-Hurra, Radio Sawa, Radio Monte Carlo, Algerian TV and Radio, Egyptian TV and many other TV, radio and newspaper and magazine  outlets.

He has also given lectures at a number of American universities including University of Virginia, Harvard University, Princeton University, Birgham Young University, University of Colorado at Boulder, Brown University, University of Arizona, Mississippi State University, Amherst College, Smith College, Western New England College, Washington and Lee University, William and Mary, Virginia Military Academy, as well as at a number of universities overseas including, Peking University, Hong Kong Baptist University, University of Jordan, and the University of Abu Dhabi.

Ghareeb has also delivered papers at a number of think tanks in the U.S., Europe, the Middle East, and North Africa.


 * You aren't being persecuted for not being allowed to add unreferenced promotional material to your employer's Wikipedia article. You have no reference for the claims of being "an internationally recognized expert" nor the universities worked at nor the papers delivered to think tanks. As I have told you before you need reliable sources for the changes you want to make. And you must formally declare your WP:COI. Notfrompedro (talk) 16:39, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

I am not a paid employee. I am a friend of Dr. Ghareeb. I do not understand why I should not write that Dr. Ghareeb is an "internationally recognized expert," He is on TV or radio in the Middle East on a daily basis. What would you prefer that I write? I don't want to get into a conflict with you. When I first edited his page back in 2012, I experienced no problems. I also submitted the photo of Dr. Ghareeb for the Wikipedia Entry. I was quite surprised to find such resistance this time around. Are you familiar with Dr. Ghareeb's work? He is an internationally recognized expert. I will cite as many things as I possibly can. If you want me to change the text, I am at your disposal. dperry18 (User talk:dperry18talk)

Here is attribution that Dr. Ghareeb is an internationally recognized expert. https://abpadc.org/edmund-ghareeb/ (Dperry18 (talk) 18:47, 22 September 2021 (UTC))

Why are you totally deleting Dr. Ghareeb's wikipedia entry? This is completely unfair. Please stop and revert it to the version that was available before I started making revions. (Dperry18 (talk) 19:03, 22 September 2021 (UTC))


 * I have explained all this on your talk page. Please pick a venue and keep the conversation there it is difficult to assume good faith when every time I explain something to you you just jump to another talk page and ask the very same question as if you didn't know the answer. First you claimed "I am Dr. Ghareeb's assistant." and then you said "I am a former student" but here you say "I am a friend of Dr. Ghareeb. All three show a conflict of interest so it doesn't really matter which one is true. I already explained that the abpadc.org source is an association for which Ghareeb is on the board. This isn't independent of the subject per WP:REPUTABLE. I stripped out all the MOS:PUFFERY and unreferenced content per WP:BLP. It was added by a SPA which I assume is you since you admitted to doing this years ago. Is Kikuchiyo12 your old account? Notfrompedro (talk) 19:24, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

I am Kikuchiyo12. I forgot the password for the account, so I created a new account. How do I appeal what you have done to the wikipedia entry? The wikipedia entry has no mention that Dr. Ghareeb is a media figure in the Middle East. I did not include any puffery in the entry that I posted. I think it is important to list the Middle East news networks that Dr. Ghareeb has appeared in. Why are you treating me like this? I have done nothing wrong. I did not create multiple accounts to circumvent Wikipedia's policies. I just cannot get a password recovery for the account. Please let me know how I should proceed. I will just limit my comments to Dr. Ghareeb's talk page from now on. (Dperry18 (talk) 17:32, 23 September 2021 (UTC))


 * As I have explained before, information on Wikipedia needs to be verifiable and the way to do this is by using reliable sources. You keep adding completely unreferenced dumps of information specifically to flatter the article subject. It is puffery and promotional. This isn't personal. These are Wikipedia guidelines that apply to everyone. Notfrompedro (talk) 17:45, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

I have conformed to your instructions regarding COI and not being able to post directly to the Wikipedia page and instead posting changes in talk. I was hoping that you would examine what I have written in talk and make changes accordingly. I do not want to flatter Dr. Ghareeb. I just want what I have written to be examined by you or others in order for it to be included on the wikipedia entry. The idea that all of what I have written is not valid seems farfetched to me. Is the following paragraph ok? It is not meant to flatter. It just lists the news channels that he has been on. I would not be able to attribute all of the media outlets because I don't speak Arabic and I don't know whether his appearances were recorded to youtube. Do I really have to provide attribution for every news organization that is listed? I would like to know the guidelines to disputing some of your edits. Is it possible for you to let me know what I need to do to appeal your deletions?

Ghareeb has been a contributing analyst to the Associated Press on US foreign and domestic policies and on relations with Europe, China, Russia and the Middle East and North Africa. He has been a frequent commentator and analyst for numerous media outlets. These include Al Jazeerah, BBC Arabic and World Radio and TV, The PBS NewsHour, NPR, CNN and CNNI, Fox News since 1979, ABC News, NBC News, C-Span, Deutsche Welle  and RT TV (Arabic and English), CCTV, CGTN, Al Arabiya, MBC, Al Hadath, Al Ikhbariya, GLOBO TV, OMAN TV, KUWAIT TV, On TV, Nile TV, Egypt TV, Al Mamlakah TV, Syrian TV, Orient TV, CBC TV, LBCI TV, ANA TV, NNA TV, Al-Araby, Al-Mayadeen TV, OTV, Al Jadeed, Al Mustaqbal TV, Al Alam TV, Al Iraqiyaa. Al Sumariya TV, AL Sharqiyya TV, Algerian TV and Radio Monte Carlo, Medi 1 Radio and TV, Abu Dhabi TV, Dubai TV, TRT TV, Al-Iraqiyya, Rudaw TV, Orient TV, Al Sharq TV, Al Youm TV, France 24 TV, Al-Ikhbariya TV, VOA radio and TV, al-Hurra, Radio Sawa, Radio Monte Carlo, Algerian TV and Radio, Egyptian TV and many other TV, radio and newspaper and magazine  outlets. (Dperry18 (talk) 22:44, 23 September 2021 (UTC))


 * I have examined your draft and nothing new from your draft is referenced. The only references are from the existing lede. You need reliable sources to verify the additions. Notfrompedro (talk) 23:08, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

I find it odd that any bit of information from the above paragraph does not pass muster. Is there anyone else I could talk to? I would like to appeal your edits. This is the third time I've asked for that information. (Dperry18 (talk) 05:38, 25 September 2021 (UTC))


 * What is odd about it? It is completely unreferenced as I have told you repeatedly. You need reliable sources to verify the additions. Feel free to request a third option but these are policies and they are especially strict for biographies of living people. You will not get a different answer. Notfrompedro (talk) 12:38, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

I found this link the proves that Dr. Ghareeb went onto C-Span. https://www.c-span.org/person/?52309/EdmundGhareeb Is there anyway that the valid parts of my changes could be incorporated in the Wikipedia entry? (Dperry18 (talk) 06:02, 25 September 2021 (UTC))


 * I have incorporated this fact in the article. Notfrompedro (talk) 12:38, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

Could you add a sentence or two that says that Dr. Ghareeb has been a frequent commentator and analyst for numerous media outlets, especially those in the Middle East? Dperry18 (talk) 00:40, 7 October 2021 (UTC)