Talk:Education in Italy/Archive 1

Untitled
Ok :P This is the first article I wrote for Wikipedia, so I'd like if someone checks the page :) Also, check my English please: I'm italian and it's possible that i've made some errors :p I didn't put links to related Wiki articles, but i'll do it asap, if something else is wrong with this article please let me know thanks :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.52.4.67 (talk) 12:08, 10 June 2005 (UTC)

Template:Education infobox
I created a template, Template:Education infobox which can give a quick at a glance demographics table for education articles. See its implementation at Education in the United States and feel free to help improve the template.--naryathegreat | (talk) 01:00, August 7, 2005 (UTC)

Corrected some spelling
Hello. I've just corrected a few spellings on your article. I've changed "secundry", to "secondary". Just thought I'd let you know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.253.148.182 (talk) 22:38, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Some edits
Buon Giorno. I have removed a thoroughly-garbled section that seems to have been the result of a previous, incomplete editing attempt and corrected some grammar problems. The messy section apparently discussed the Italian exam system to some extent. This is a subject that deserves a detailed section of its own. The article could also use a much more extensive discussion of the history of Italian state education. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.79.19.115 (talk) 15:21, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

I was disappointed not to find somthing here about Universities in Italy. Specifically the larger and more famous ones, and maybe a few statistics etc.

Charlene T — Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.124.16.28 (talk) 23:01, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

definitive version :P
Ok, i've reviewed this article after years. I've added the infobox, with the information i was aware of (or could find), enhanced the history section, and added an university section that could answer to the requests i have read on the talk page. I still need to cite sources where needed (i'll do it, don't worry ;)) and the infobox lacks some data, that i could not find. Any comment or review is welcome :) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dreamstalker (talk • contribs) 18:11, 4 March 2007 (UTC).

Attainment
Why is there no number next to the attainment column in the right side? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.141.47.50 (talk) 02:55, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

More Information?
I've been doing some research on the Italian school and there seems to be nothing on the liceo "magistrale istituto." Could someone please put information regarding the school year, private, public, and/or co-ed schools, uniform codes (if any) and how the graduation rate? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Azncutthroat117 (talk • contribs) 02:19, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

in the year 1999 the reform of school made by the minister of education "Letizia Moratti" change the name of "istituto magistrale" (institut of teachers) in "liceo socio-psico-pedagogico" (liceo of psicology, pedagogy an sociology), now another reform of school made by minister "Gelmini" change again the name in "liceo delle scienze umane" (liceo of study about humanitates). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.146.239.153 (talk) 14:35, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Unsourced Claim
The article states that the "liceo Scientifico" is the most attended secondary school in Italy, but this claim is totally unsourced and, in my view, patentely wrong. Actually, ITIS (Istituto tacnico industriale statale) and ITC (Istituto tecnico commerciale) are still, and by far, the most common secondary school in Italy. One has to consider, for example, that these schools offer a more professional education and therefore are the first choiche of those who - and in Italy they are still a vast majority - don't want to further their studies at an university level; and, if you earn a secondary degree in these schools, you can enroll at the university, and a lot of undergraduate and even postgraduate students in Italy come from such institutions. The Idea that "Licei" are a common choice actually derives from a social-cultural bias typical of the upper classes. So, till somebody sources this claim, I am erasing it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.162.175.48 (talk) 10:18, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
 * according to Istat (, pag 374) the liceo scientifico is by far the most attended secondary school in Italy. And the combined numbers for liceo classico and scientifico are bigger than those of the Istituti tecnici. I think one lesson from this is... look at the numbers! --Ita140188 (talk) 22:07, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

HDR - really a source?
I saw that the HDR Report 2007/8 is given as source (without a page which makes it pretty difficult, as the complete report has 384 pages!) I quickly checked searching for Italy, but I could not find anything in the report that seems to be useful sourcing information from the text. Hence, I hope that either the auther reads this and can add the precise page or someone is able to substitute it by better (real?) sources. --AMH-DS (talk) 19:03, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Unconstructive removals
I restored the article to what it was before Vega84's unexplained removals. I have already contacted the author of said edits in order to understand said removal and reach a consensus on what should be included in the page, keeping in mind how we should work towards the growth of the article. --Angelikfire (talk) 10:19, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

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Number of post-secondary enrollment
The article currently (in the box) claims a post-secondary enrollment of 386,000, without a source. I am unsure what this refers to. According to Eurostat, there were ca. 1.8 million students at the tertiary level in 2015: http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/File:Number_of_tertiary_education_students_by_level_and_sex,_2015_(thousands)_YB17.png - Does anyone know what the 386k then refer to? -- Cgambino (talk) 21:52, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

Gelmini reforms
Major piece of legislation in 2008 which defines the situation today. Missing. Can anyone help? --ClemRutter (talk) 11:33, 8 March 2019 (UTC)