Talk:Education in Tokyo

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The capitalization of "Tokyo's Top Ranked Private Universities" implies that this is a name. Where is this name used?

If it's not a name, this is instead an article about Tokyo's top ranked private universities. Uh huh: Ranked by whom? Where?

Perhaps I'm mistaken, but I'd thought that in the rather inane preoccupation with ranking Tokyo's private universities (a particular obsession of Sandē Mainichi no?), ICU came fairly near the top. However, it's not mentioned. Was I wrong?

I'd also thought that when it came to job hunting (for nontechnical jobs, let alone technical ones), the differences among universities were often considerably less important than those between gakubu or even gakka. A degree in law from Chuo could thus outrank one in literature from Sophia. Am I wrong here too?

How are the various assertions made in the article related to the "references"? And how can two references from the last century be informative here?

Yes, if "Tokyo's Top Ranked Private Universities" is not a name, is there any more reason for this article than one for "Italy's Top Ranked Sports Cars" or "The United States' Bottom Ranked Presidents"? -- Hoary 00:22, 17 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Perhaps something like University rankings, Japan? Exploding Boy 03:40, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia as a source
We read:


 * These universities vary in enrolment, religious affiliation and history, but company hiring in Tokyo has shown that preference is typically given to new graduates of Sōkeijōchi or MARCH universities (see Daigakugun article in Japanese Wikipedia). 

Like so many articles at ja:WP, that article cites no source whatever. It strikes me as utterly worthless. And if it did cite sources, this article should cite those sources, not the WP confection made from them. After all, en:WP never cites itself, and I don't see why ja:WP should be any more reliable. -- Hoary 11:55, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

The Tokyo/Yokohama/Saitama megalopolis expands!
We read:


 *  Other selective private universities not included in these groups are Doshisha University, Gakushuin University, Meiji Gakuin University, Ritsumeikan University, International Christian University, etc. (Ando 1994, Ono 2003).

I'm not all that surprised to read that Doshisha and Ritsumeikan aren't included in this or that list of Tokyo universities. -- Hoary 11:55, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Buzzword
We read:


 * This categorization of universities is based on limited research.

I venture to suggest that it's based on ease of pronunciation. Imagine for a moment that Hosei were out and Gakushuin were in. What would we have? MARCG: rearrange the letters any way you will and you'll have trouble getting a snappy acronym out of them. ("GRAMC" グラムク?)

The "Tokyo" part seems arbitrary too. I suspect that some universities with Kanagawa-ken addresses are no further from central Tokyo than is, say, Chuo. And for that matter, why is the "privacy" of these universities such a big deal? (Because it handily disposes of Hitotsubashi, Tokyo Gaigo, etc.?) -- Hoary 11:55, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

"non-selective universities"?

 * it was reported that graduates of highly selective and selective universities in Tokyo had higher incomes than those of non-selective universities

Which universities let in people without a selection procedure? (Or if something else is meant, what is it?) -- Hoary 07:32, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Yozemi sources
Yozemi has rearranged its website. The pages that the article cites are now off this. Tama1988 (talk) 08:35, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Fixed. Tama1988 (talk) 09:27, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

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