Talk:Edward Fuller (Mayflower passenger)

Contradict
How can Robert Fuller, the father, have been buried in 1584, but had a will dated 1614?? Valerius Tygart (talk) 14:24, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Also, Edward's mother was both "Sarah Dunkhorn" and "Frances". Valerius Tygart (talk) 14:25, 20 May 2015 (UTC)


 * It states "first wife" - evidentally, Fuller's father had two wives.


 * Yes, saw that. States Samuel & Edward were "sons of ... Robert's first wife Sarah Dunkhorn" and references Edward's "mother Frances". The contradiction remains. Valerius Tygart (talk) 14:44, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Also, I see you took out the date of the will, as if that solves the problem. How do you know it isn't the burial date that is wrong?? Valerius Tygart (talk) 15:08, 20 May 2015 (UTC)


 * If you will give me a chance, I WILL check the references and reference material. This may take a trip to the library.  If you want, you can, of course help by removing any ambiguities you find.  Meanwhile, I have removed all contradictory information until I can check the references.  Since the information is no longer contradictory, I have also removed the template.Mugginsx (talk) 15:27, 20 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Ok. You seem mostly concerned that the template should be removed. There is nothing wrong with leaving such a template in place until issues are resolved. It is not a "badge of dishonor". I think it should remain in place until the issues are resolved. That serves to alert other editors (besides you & me) of the problems. We are not the only people with an interest in this. Valerius Tygart (talk) 14:40, 26 May 2015 (UTC)


 * I have no problem with the template. I thought I would have the corrected information quickly.  Upon further reading respected online sources state that there is very little information and some disinformation on Edward Fuller such as the name of his wife, and other "facts". I could not find anything on his will. I think the best thing to do is to permanently removed the mention of his will.  This source will explain.  http://mayflowerhistory.com/fuller-edward/ and this one http://www.plimoth.org/media/pdf/fuller_edward.pdf. After doing many of these type articles, my feeling is that if two or more such sources contradict a certain fact, it is probably not credible information. Your comments are welcome. Mugginsx (talk) 18:09, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

I've resolved this issue by using the best available source: MacGunnigle, Bruce Campbell (2006), Mayflower Families Through Five Generations, Volume Four (3rd edition): "Family of Edward Fuller"; General Society of Mayflower Descendants. Turns out the mistake was that Sara (Dunkhorn) Fuller was the one buried at Redenhall on 1 July 1584, not her husband Robert Fuller. MacGunnigle does not give a date for Robert's death, but it was obviously between 19 May 1613, when his will is dated, and 31 May 1614, when the will was proved. This was a straightforward error by whoever did that original edit. (Another error by someone: 19 May 1614 was originally given as the date the will was signed. It was 19 May 1613.) MacGunnigle confirms the second wife (and widow mentioned in the will), Frances, unknown maiden name. Valerius Tygart (talk) 16:43, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi - I removed "a wife Ann Hopkins (1581-1621)" as I don't think there is an authoritative source for the name of Edwards wife. Stwainer (talk)