Talk:Edward Wortley Montagu (diplomat)

Requested move
Move Parsecboy (talk) 17:25, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Move back to natural and unique diasambiguation from artificial and unnatural parenthesis; per WP:NCNT: Sir" may be used in article titles as a disambiguator. . Unfortunately, the unwise move has been compounded with a tweak to the redirect. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 00:05, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Survey

 * Support as nom. (I will also add that if we had to pick a disambiguator of our own, his well-known service as one of the earliest British Ambassadors to Turkey is more important than his stint in the Treasury). Septentrionalis PMAnderson 00:05, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Support. Better disambiguator. The DAB at Montagu needs a little work as well, but fix this first. Andrewa (talk) 14:36, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Support -- I objected to the person who made the move against his having done it. He seems to be an American, who probably has little understanding of the place of honorific titles in Britain.  Peterkingiron (talk) 23:20, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Oppose. It was wrong to make the move, but moving it back to the previous title will not make things better. "Sir" is not a better disambiguator unless you happen to know all about the family already. Deb (talk) 23:41, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
 * (Lord Commissioner of the Treasury) has the same problem, in addition to its own clumsiness; it was wrong to move it here because this is a worse dab. THere may be one better than either; please suggest one. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 16:34, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Suggested new titles
Okay then, what about Edward Wortley Montagu (diplomat) (a redirect at present) or Edward Wortley Montagu (ambassador)? Deb (talk) 12:59, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I am happy with the present title, but would not oppose either of your suggestions or Edward Wortley Montagu (Treasury Lord). However the real problem is that he occupied these roles only for quite brief periods of his life, though he was an MP almost continuously for over 50 years.  Peterkingiron (talk) 16:34, 24 February 2009 (UTC)