Talk:Edwin Stanton

Untitled
''"There lies the most perfect ruler of men the world has ever seen." is a DOUBLE ENTENDRE. Compare, Sic Semper Tyrannis. The 'unidentified man' in the cannon-cartoon looks allot like JWBoothe.''

home state for cabinet lists
Currently, both the Attorney General article and the Secretary of War article list Ohio as his home state, but from the article it appears he had not lived there since 1847. If he moved to Washington in 1856, shouldn't his home state for these purposes be "D.C."? Is there a source which suggests he was appointed from Ohio? john k (talk) 04:48, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Lincoln Assassination Section
The last paragraph of this section, the one dealing with the mistreatment of the conspirators on trial, is taken almost (if not completely) verbatim from the Kunhardts' Twenty Days chapter "No Funerals for the Assassins." 45750born (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 15:33, 19 May 2010 (UTC).

Edwin Stanton
1) in the intro it mentions "Johnson's attempt to dismiss Stanton led the House of Representatives to impeach him." this is ambiguous. who was impeached, stanton or johnson?

2) in early life section it says "He helped his mother in run a general store in Steubenville." instead of "in run" i suppose it should say "IN RUNNING" or "TO RUN".

3) why does it say "At the age of twenty one Steuben argued his first case before the court." shouldn't it be STANTON who did the arguing?

4) in civil war section it says "Stanton was Lincoln's closest adviser during the American Civil War but was divided over the issue he supported arming freed slaves to fight in the Union Army." this sentence does not make sense; it seems like two partial sentences combined without the proper transitional phrase. okay he was lincoln's close advisor but what does the rest mean? stanton was divided in his own mind - or divided from lincoln's policy? and what exactly was this division about?

5) it says "...who committed suicidse..." that is misspelled.

6) in the In Buchanan's Cabinet section, it says "If he did such a thing, the two men... agreed that they would resign...". Should this be the opposite sense, i.e., "If he did not do such a thing..."?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by BillDavisWiki (talk • contribs) 13:47, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Legacy
I know that a collection of streets named after people this famous may be a long exhausting list. However, I believe that is information people may be looking for and interested to read. I live in Pittsburgh right near where Edwin Stanton lived before DC and Stanton Road and the adjacent Stanton Heights in Highland Park Pittsburgh was named after him/his family.

I am curious if others think this information should be included?

(Greasyqtip (talk) 14:04, 11 February 2012 (UTC))

Pop Culture
He is one of the few most portrayed figures in Abraham Lincoln pop culture, why not give several titles a mention? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:FEA8:1320:AD5:84A4:9D02:43E4:E821 (talk) 04:50, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

"intimate personal friends"?
Odd reference to Stanton and Vallandingham being "intimate personal friends" before the war. Are the quote-marks meant to be suggestive? If the author wants to make a point about the nature of the relationship, he should clarify this. Or just say 'personal friends', without any quote marks. 109.154.15.65 (talk) 14:52, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

butchers vs. generals quote: any way to work it in?
Wondering if there's a way to work in this quote of Stanton's, based on the article as it currently is written?

"Why is it that military generals are praised and honored instead of being punished as malefactors? After all, the work of war is the making of widows and orphans, the plundering of towns and villages, the exterminating and spoiling of all, making the earth a slaughterhouse. Though governments might argue war's necessity to achieve certain objectives, how much better might they accomplish their ends by some other means? But if generals are useful so are butchers, and who will say that because a butcher is useful he should be honored?"

Thoughts? joepa T 05:48, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Plan
--ceradon ( talk •  contribs ) 06:16, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Attorney in Pittsburgh
 * (Flower, p. 53-59) Argues for the state of Pennsylvania in the Supreme Court case State of Pennsylvania v. Wheeling and Belmont Bridge Company (1850)
 * (Flower, p. 61) Oella files for divorce from Dr. Benjamin Tappan, Stanton sends his colleague Roderick S. Moody to take the case on.
 * (Thomas & Hyman, pp. 60-66) Three important cases in Pittsburgh: State of Pennsylvania v. Wheeling and Belmont Bridge Company (above) ; Stanton represented the owners of Pittsburgh factories after disgruntled workers fuck shit up ; Stanton, along with George Harding and Peter H. Watson, defends Cyrus H. McCormick -- meets Lincoln for the first time.
 * (Thomas & Hyman, p. 47) Abolitionist Whigs and Democrats form the Free Soil Party in August 1848 and rally behind Van Buren; lost the election that year -- Franklin Pierce becomes president.
 * (Thomas & Hyman, pp. 49-51) Compromise of 1850 with Clay and his merry bunch.
 * (Thomas & Hyman, pp. 68-70) Stanton meets and marries Ellen Hutchinson; leaves Pittsburgh for Washington.


 * Buchanan's Attorney General
 * (Thomas & Hyman, pp. 51-53) Stephen A. Douglas' bullshit and epic amorality pushes the country closer to civil war with the Kansas-Nebraska Act.


 * Random notes
 * Information on the Emancipation Proclamation in Flower's Edwin McMasters Stanton begins on p. 182. --ceradon ( talk •  edits ) 07:46, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

This is going somewhere, I'm sure
https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1499&dat=19480619&id=0D4aAAAAIBAJ&sjid=FyUEAAAAIBAJ&pg=4094,1525223&hl=en --cera don  06:00, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

Duplication
There seems to be a lot of overlapping. Why does 'Antebellum career' come after his civil war service? Valetude (talk) 14:44, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

Word correction
In the last paragraph, second to last sentence of the "War rages on" section: "Grant and Maj. Gen. William Tecumseh Sherman broke the Gen. Bragg's siege at Chattanooga in late November.", needs looking at. I am in the middle of something so if someone doesn't mind checking out that the should either be through (thru?), removed as unnecessary, or possible "Gen. Bragg's" removed. Thank you, Otr500 (talk) 22:27, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

General Sherman
The discussion of General Sherman’s treaty with the confederacy is one sided and inaccurate. A biography of general Sherman, “William Tecumseh Sherman” by James Lee McDonough details how Sherman’s initial Negotiations were probably influenced by personal meeting he had with Lincoln shortly before the ladders assassination. The details of how Shermans actions probably reflected what President Lincoln Had indicated he wanted to do in closing the breech with the south

Additionally this article does not detail Stanton‘s refusal to consider what Sherman had said his motives were. Particularly General Grant had sent a telegram to Mr. Stanton after meeting with Sherman which contains some of Shermans explanations. Mr. Stanton redacted this to a very short version which he released to the press hiding telegram in his personal Effects to be revealed only after his death

Clearly the somewhat glowing article which is currently published in Wikipedia overlooks Stantons abhorrent mistreatment of a general who was a major factor in the unions defeat of the confederacy If this section is to remain it needs to be Revised and the point of view widened 174.231.18.39 (talk) 01:41, 10 November 2022 (UTC)

Lucy Lamson’s birth & death dates
If Stanton’s daughter Lucy was born March 1840 and died in 1841, as the article says, then she didn’t pass away “shortly after her second birthday,” as the article also says. One of these statements must be incorrect. 2601:1C2:1300:65A0:0:0:0:4E58 (talk) 00:59, 30 March 2024 (UTC)