Talk:Effect of the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake on Indonesia

Nias and other islands ignored?
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 * Visitors to Nias Island.com alleges that Nias is not getting enough relief attention (here and here). Most Indonesian relief (understandably) goes to Nanggroe Aceh Darussalam (Aceh), since apparently that's where most of the deaths are. Perhaps other small islands and areas in Northern Sumatra are getting the same treatment (or lack of treatment). Can anyone else find any other source for confirmation? And if so write in the proper paragraph into the Indonesia section? And perhaps this more appropriately belongs in Wikinews (here or here)?
 * --Lemi4 15:22, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I'd also like to add more claims of aid not reaching Nias (from NiasIsland.com again) and relief info from Surf Aid International --Lemi4 02:10, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)

OK, sorry for being snarky again, fellow Wikipedians, but I can't seem to wait any longer for more credible sources. So I've posted --Lemi4 19:31, 4 Jan 2005 (UTC)


 * My first reaction to User:Zosodada's deletion of the Nias Ignored section was that there was some misunderstanding. That is, until I read this. But that does not change the fact that the aid to Indonesia is still poorly distributed.


 * (Besides there have been allegations by my cousins that TB Silalahi never set foot on Nias; he just flew over (in Indonesian, unfortunately) )


 * There was a Kompas headline article (sorry again, I can't find an English source yet) two days ago which stated that stated that the island Simeulue has not been reached by aid yet. And before that there was a feature article (sorry, again no English source) that Nias was not touched yet. That was on New Year's. I'd tell you what I heard from the Church Bulletin that night (stating 227 dead, 150 missing, 340 injured, and 4.500 lost homes) but unfortunately Wikipedia is not a source of primary information (a policy I agree with, by the way). Perhaps this information is not encyclopedic and it better fits in WikiNews, I'll concede to that at least.


 * I would rather give links like this or this from the Jakarta Post (via google cache), but unfortunately The Jakarta Post keeps moving their URIs around. International news tend to focus on the global angle, while local media tends to stick to major topics (in this case Aceh). Independent Free Content sites like Wikipedia and Wikinews are really the only significant hope for fringe areas to get any awareness or attention at all. Its either that or blogs [indonesia-HELP].


 * Hopefully all this aid mismanagement shenanigan can be fixed during today's emergency tsunami summit. --Lemi4 04:49, 6 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Free Aceh Movement (GAM)
I've been hearing some disturbing news about GAM, mainly about them raiding aid/relief convoys. Can somebody confirm this? --Vandal Unknown 22:04, 4 Jan 2005 (UTC)


 * There has been reports of such raids in various local media like Kompas, The Jakarta Post, and Media Indonesia. I'll look for the individual articles Real Soon Now&trade;.


 * But I personally would take these reports with a grain of salt, since most major media in Indonesia have been historically under (alleged covert) pressure to carry the Government line (even now after the 1998 Reform) through the use of financial incentives (or pressures) and/or physical threat. But nevertheless it is very possible that the attacks are very real (though it would show how inhumane GAM is). --Lemi4 03:29, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC)

BBC
It may be good to hear that the BBC website has a link to this page. It shows the trust other sites give to Wikipedia. - (Erebus555 11:57, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC))

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Death toll
I recently updated the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and tsunami article to match the figures in the final report of the Tsunami Evaluation Coalition (TEC). This report refers to a drastic reduction in the estimated numbers of missing people in Indonesia by more than 50,000 in April 2005. The final total of dead and missing given in both the TEC synthesis report and a report by the UN and BRR (the Indonesian Rehabilitation and Reconstruction Agency for Aceh and Nias) is 167,540. This is the number that we should be using. Mikenorton (talk) 16:38, 30 July 2018 (UTC)