Talk:Egg in the basket/Archive 1

Preparation + Detail Removals
I removed some uncited claims that have been there since July 2010. I also culled some descriptive claims that were worded subjectively. I'd like to add the Preparation details back in under the Description section, but they need to be cited better. Everyone makes this dish differently, and it seems unwise to describe any unique preparation as "common" unless it can be cited. --173.15.125.225 (talk) 16:48, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Untitled Conversation
I suppose it can be moved to wikibooks-it's more of a food dish then an encyclopedia article. The alternate names bit is a bit interesting, as when I first expanded this article, I had very few names. It was rather fun to see them all pop up from other users. I think the V for Vendetta reference is rather trivial, considering food has been featured in a lot of films. My $0.02, anyway. I have no experience outside of Wikipedia, so I'd like to see someone who knows how to format it put it over there, so it doesn't get lost. AmishCellPhone 16:21, 6 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Yeah you're right it is cool to see all the different names for this one dish. Personally, I've always known this as toad in-the-hole.  Maybe there is some regional trend for all these names.... like there is with Soda pop, pop, Soda, and soft drink.--P-Chan 22:47, 24 April 2006 (UTC)


 * It's wholly appropriate to leave this article here - there is more than a simple recipe. JD79 23:30, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Toad in the hole is breakfast sausage cooked in Yorkshire Pudding dough. :)

Heh, "egg with a hole in the middle."--Foot Dragoon 17:19, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Loved the "Toad in the hole". I'm going to use "camel's eye" for now. When I have kids, I'll call it "peekaboo toast". ~yoyojedi 10-16-06

Suggest revision to Revision as of 20:51, 30 October 2006 by Scottfeldstein
This revision features two high-quality pictures of actual "eggs in a basket." Aside from that, I'm suggesting a trim in the ridiculous amount of names for the dish.


 * Done I agree that the previous pictures we're much better.--Jonclegg 17:51, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

V again
Is "egg in a basket" a mainly US dish? I remember something about this being said when Alan Moore was interviewed about this. I had never heard of it before, despite knowing of a good many obscure pieces of English cuisine! --MacRusgail 19:59, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I'd back Moore up on his complaint here, as an ordinary citizen of the UK who has had many a full english breakfast and many variants on a theme of egg-on/with-toast.... but has never seen this. It's got to be american - they're wasting perfectly good food by tearing out the middle of the slice! (your typical british so-called cuisine is more austerity fare... such behaviour would be strongly frowned upon! the reason for having fried bread instead of toast in the first place is to use up stale bread and the cooking oil in the pan, both of which would otherwise be wasted). What's wrong with good old fried egg on toast/WITH fried bread? :-) 82.46.180.56 17:54, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I have to disagree with the statement that eggs in a basket is wasteful because eggs in a basket is perfect for little ones. I take a cookie cutter to take out the insides of the pieces of bread and use those to make peanut butter and jelly sandwiches for them (it's doubly good, because they don't like crusts :P), or I use them for stuffing.

Also, Alan Moore did not disavow his writing credit, in part, due to Eggy in a Basket. He had far bigger problems with the movie industry-- look at his article

"Names" section (needs cleanup)
I have the feeling that at least some of these names listed here are not real or only used by a really group of people and not relevant for an encyclopedia. The dish is known under some strange names. It seems to be tempting to add some own creations to the list. Someone wants to clean up? -- 84.190.188.93 14:16, 27 December 2006 (UTC)


 * The "complete" list (including "armag-egg-on-toast", "murdered bird in bread", "Osama egg Laden", and "world war II") has now been moved to WP:BJAODN. --Quuxplusone 10:30, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Im sorry if some of these names seem nonsense but i am not the only person to be adding these. i even had help from an admin to make the bulleted list with all the names in alphabetical order. if you look back in the history you will see when he made it. i have also been researching on the internet and surveying people about the use of these names and ive heard just about everything so please dont be so quick to judge if some of these sound funny. thanks (unsigned message from User:66.208.218.98)

Blame the Boy Scouts?

 * Sorry but this is nonsense, even if some person one the planet uses these names, this list does not add any value to the article. Wikipedia is not a directory of everything that exists or has existed (WP:NOT). And please do not delete the messages of other users. -- 84.190.168.69 20:21, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

the reason there is a list is because it has so many names. It is one of its features. the simple fact that it has SO MANY NAMES. it is part of the artical and it certainly is part of egg in the basket. (sorry if i deleted them but they were before the artical got deleted so they arnt pard of any type of discussion anymore.) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.208.218.98 (talk • contribs).


 * If this list is so important to you, maintain it and remove fakes (e.g. random search of "naked bird in naked bread" did not show up much results). Where is it used? This list of unverified names attracts more unverified names. Do you use all these names, do you really know them all? It may be important to know that the dish is known by many names, but not to know all names that were ever used (see what wikipedia not is in my message above). -- 84.190.152.220 20:16, 11 January 2007 (UTC) Regardless if content on talk page is outdated, do not delete it, only archive it(WP:TALK). Please sign your messages (WP:SIG).

Names
Via Cleanup: names list appended for discussion. It completely fails WP:V, WP:RS and WP:NOR. Which ones can be demonstrated to be common, via sources such as cookery books? Tearlach 00:39, 31 January 2007 (UTC)


 * armored egg
 * bad egg
 * bird (or birdie) in the nest
 * bird in the hole
 * bird's eye
 * bird's nest
 * black-eyed susan
 * bull's eye
 * bullet hole toast
 * camel's eye
 * cluck-in-a-hole
 * cowboy eggs
 * cyclops sandwich
 * dippy toast
 * egg hole
 * egg in a box —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.237.242.229 (talk) 22:21, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * ''egg in a circle —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.237.242.229 (talk) 22:18, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * egg in a hat
 * egg in a hole
 * egg in a well
 * egg in bread
 * egg in the center
 * egg in the face
 * egg in the hole
 * egg in the middle
 * egg in the window
 * egg in toast
 * egg on the real
 * egg toast
 * eggie in a basket
 * eggs in a blanket
 * eggs in a frame
 * eggs in a nest
 * eggs on toast
 * eggy toast
 * egg in toast —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.202.46.105 (talk) 18:00, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Egyptian eyes
 * Egyptian fish eye
 * ''Eye eggs
 * eye openers
 * flat eggs
 * fox in the hole
 * fred
 * gas house eggs
 * gasthaus eggs


 * ghetto omelette
 * Hen In A Basket
 * hobo eggs LeftFive (talk) 11:34, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * hole in one
 * hole in the bread
 * hole in the middle
 * Humpty in the wall
 * Hollywood egg
 * holy eggs
 * horse in the stable
 * Jailhouse eggs
 * Japan eggs
 * Knot-hole eggs
 * loaded bread
 * man on a raft
 * melted yellow and white crayons
 * ''monster toast —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.237.242.229 (talk) 22:20, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * moon over miami
 * ''one-eyed Egyptian —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.209.142.231 (talk) 08:59, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
 * one-eyed pirate
 * out-of-the-ordinary toast
 * Panama hat
 * peekaboo toast
 * pigeon poop
 * pig in the poke
 * piggy in the muddy
 * popeye eggs
 * pothole eggs
 * rocky mountain eggs
 * rocky mountain toast
 * Scottish pizza
 * sunshine toast
 * surprise eggs
 * suspension eggs
 * toad in the hole
 * toast around egg
 * toast benedict
 * tunnel toast
 * wes-egg
 * world war II
 * yellow asshole (in the UK it is known as yeller Arsehole)
 * yellow in the snow
 * yellow moon
 * yolk doughnut


 * A lot of these names were reinserted again by User:Echeesekid without justification (e.g. sources), the user just claimed to removed the bogus ones, still without naming sources. I removed them again. Please read about what wikipedia is not WP:WWIN and message from user above. I did some google search about these "names":


 * "Toast around egg": 3 hits []


 * "out-of-the-ordinary toast": 3 hits []


 * "yolk doughnut": 7 hits []


 * Please note, the few hits are mostly related to wikipedia or have nothing to do with this dish. I know this is not the only :possible source, so if you find a realiable source (e.g. cookery book) feel free to cite them. -- 87.187.25.160 22:06, 28 February 2007 (UTC) P.S.: My mother used to call it like that, is not a reliable source.

"Bung the whole lot"
Can someone please translate this into english??? I have never heard the word "bung" used like this. It's usually only a dirty word where I'm from.74.129.182.182 20:19, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

A "bung" is a stopper or cork, which is used to plug the "bung hole". Most commonly, a bung hole is a hole in a keg, cask, or other similar vessel, which is used to clean out an empty keg and then used to re-fill said keg. A bung is then hammered into the bung hole with a mallet, thus sealing the contents within the keg to be later dispensed through the spigot or tap. I'm not sure how or when the term "bung hole" was first associated with a certain portion of the human anatomy medically known as the anus, butt(pun intended), there is a fairly apt corrolation between the two. I guess to answer the above question, "Bung the whole lot", in my estimation means to "plug all of the holes", but more than likely means means "F#*% every one of them!" 67.189.11.62 04:34, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Get away with you. 'Bung it all in' simply means to 'throw in everything'. It's not rude at all. Certainly it's clean enough for my mother and grandmother to use and they're hardly profane women... Try talking to someone who uses British dialect slang every day before going off on a 'fuck em all' mission like that! 82.46.180.56 17:54, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
 * "Bung" in this case can be a synonym for "throw". Huw Powell (talk) 05:50, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Frequently Used Names Missing
I grew up hearing it called a "camp egg". We had them at girl scout's camp with this name. It makes some sense as we used just the one pan for cooking at camp. I will seek a citation for this so it can be added. 24.5.74.234 (talk) 16:39, 25 July 2009 (UTC)


 * What about "Guy Kibbee"? --204.246.229.130 (talk) 15:49, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Moonstruck citation
The line about many recipes for "moonstruck eggs" appearing as a result of the movie is not supported by a citation of one recipe.

That citation proves neither that there are multiple recipes nor that they have any connection with the movie.

I am therefore going to amend that part, keeping the citation as an example, and marking the claim as requiring citation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Burkander (talk • contribs) 18:36, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Toad in the Hole not just a US term?
I grew up in regional Australia and we always referred to this dish as 'toad in the hole', so it has been used in Australia for at least 30 years. My family has no U.S. connection. Steve (talk) 02:40, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

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Commonwealth
I've just corrected this, but a note for those unfamiliar with the Commonwealth might be useful: Commonwealth Realm means a country of which Queen Elizabeth II is monarch. It should not be used to link simply to "Commonwealth"; that refers to the Commonwealth of Nations. For example, India, a republic, is a Commonwealth country but is not a Commonwealth Realm. Loganberry (Talk) 13:05, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Names (again)
I see from above that this point has been raised more than once before, but I'll do so again. I've removed nearly all the alternative names, as they were completely unreferenced and thus unverifiable. (The massive list of bolded text looked horrible, too.) I've put back a few examples, with inline citations, but names should not be re-added unless they have such things. To quote, irritatingly, from policy: the threshold for inclusion is verifiability, not truth: even if ten thousand people's grandmothers swear blind they used to call it Armadillo Custard, that's not a good enough source for WP. Loganberry (Talk) 13:33, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Give a more globally relevant idea of size
I refer to the line in the article: "(or simply pinching out a half-dollar sized hole)".

What constitutes a "half-dollar sized hole"? Anyone who is not from the US has no way of knowing because they have probably never seen a half dollar in their life. Indeed even if they have, chances are they won't remember the exact size of it. Strictly speaking, you should have the size of the hole measured in millimetres or inches (although metric is preferable).

Please change this.

iMarc89 (talk) 02:49, 16 January 2010 (UTC)


 * FIXED you lazy bastard. 98.19.61.10 (talk) 21:52, 23 July 2010 (UTC)


 * I was wondering why the page mentioned "exactly 30.61 mm", this is completely irrelevant to the article so I'll change it to something less stupid. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.108.191.1 (talk) 14:22, 26 July 2010 (UTC)


 * "Exactly 30.61 mm" was someone being silly, I'm sure. "About the size of an egg yolk" is much more sensible. This is not rocket engineering. Jonathunder (talk) 17:14, 26 July 2010 (UTC)