Talk:Egregore/Archive 1

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Don't kill it straightaway. Page Egregore does actually contain some useful ideas. Consider merging it with Thought_forms. The content of pages Meme and Memetic_engineering are also highly relevant. Be aware that the whole topic is a contentious one. One person's egregore may be another person's God (or Devil.) -- 10:47, 25 November 2006 Quacksalber

I completely fail to see the reason why this page should be deleted. Perhaps, an explanation is in order why this page is up for deletion? -- 14:25, 27 November 2006 Linden16

Why on earth should the page be deleted? I was looking for some information on the etymology and meaning of the word and found it. Still, I hope the article will be continued and complemented. For example, I think Blavatsky has also used the word.

(This is a new submission... the previous para is unsigned) In the discussion on Thought_form (q.v) I tentatively suggest both it and Egregore are merged and restructured. I also provide a ref to the Farrars [ISBN 0919345921] whose use of the word "thought-form" closely follows Egregore. Quacksalber 00:40, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

I have included a link to a new page Thought-form which I have originated. I am unhappy about having to do this and invite comments. Quacksalber 03:33, 29 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Congratulations! Wikipedia just passed my stock test of a decent occult encyclopedia. The first entry I always look for is "egregore", a term obscure to most newcomers, but well understood by established occultists. I believe Nevill Drury's Dictionary of Mysticism and the Occult has a brief entry on the subject, but this is by far the best explanation I've come across in a reference work.
 * One query, though: why are all the examples taken from outside of occultism? These could be regarded as egregores, but since they've hardly been created with knowledge or intent, they're pretty second-rate examples. The egregore of a magical group or temple carries the collective wisdom, esoteric knowledge to be unlocked by the group's specific signs and symbols, and the corporate intentions, power and momentum of the group. The examples given are thoughtforms, but hardly great examples of what an egregore is. Fuzzypeg★ 00:43, 20 October 2008 (UTC)


 * The academic psychology section seems like synthesis to me. It may well be an appropriate discussion in Collective intelligence or a similar article, but it is not appropriate here unless we have a reliable source that discusses these theories specifically in light of the "egregore" concept. Otherwise we're just jamming with our own theories and interpretations. Fuzzypeg★ 00:48, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Examples section POV
The Examples section seems to be written from the POV that egregores in the occult sense are real, e.g. it boldly states "companies have egregores" as if this is a fact rather than an esoteric belief. If the term is being used in some non-metaphysical sense then this needs to be made clear. Even then, it still seems POV, as the concept is hypothetical not factual. I think the whole section is better off deleted. --Smcg8374 (talk) 13:01, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

it appears the purpose of this section is to legitimize an occult term into mainstream usage - as such I agree it deserves deletion - valkyree 19:22, 21 June 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Valkyree (talk • contribs)

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pathetic fallacy
Why is there a link the page 'pathetic fallacy' here? There doesn't appear to be a clear connection between the concepts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.140.73.217 (talk) 08:54, 3 March 2017 (UTC)